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Old 10-09-2012, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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AWFUL!!! Why would anyone in their right mind want their child to be in pain for up to 2hours? That sounds barbaric!!!
You've never heard of the old warning "You'll eat your dinner standing up"?
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Old 10-09-2012, 05:15 PM
 
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You've never heard of the old warning "You'll eat your dinner standing up"?
Not in my world, fortunately.
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Old 10-09-2012, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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AWFUL!!! Why would anyone in their right mind want their child to be in pain for up to 2hours? That sounds barbaric!!!
I should say the stinging sensation afterwards.

Don't worry- I'm against spanking anyhow.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:05 PM
 
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They grow up into adults who fear god. Because for these folks, without god there to punish you into right, there is no reason to do right.
Thanks for the input. That means a dysfunctional individual was created.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Southwest Louisiana
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What kind of slap are we talking here? Are we talking about a smack on a clothed rear or bare legs? Or are we talking about a smack across the face or bare private parts? If the former, then I saw, it was discipline probably well needed, but if the latter, then umm.....I think it's a bit much.
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Old 10-12-2012, 04:58 PM
 
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Sometimes yes. It's unfortunate, but it is reality. You grab the rear and of some guys girlfriend, you just might get punched in the face no? In the real world people have their limits. In the real world, if you push someone's buttons you might regret it.
And then the person hit could press charges against his assaulter.

In the real world, adults are not allowed to physically attack other people. Sadly, in my opinion, adults are allowed to hit (spank or slap) children.

There's no hitting in our house. Period. Family rules. And that applies to all of us, mom and dad included. I discipline my children, but in a way that helps them learn and grow into mature adults capable of making the right decision when I'm no longer around. Discipline is teaching, not punishment.

Btw, I was spanked as a child. I turned out great. I love my parents. I have always known they love me. But I don't think spanking is ok or right. And I do think it can be very damaging to some children. I'd rather not take that risk, and besides, my hands are for guiding and loving my kids, not hurting them.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Wallace, Idaho
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Just because you don't agree with with a lil pop now and then, doesn't make it wrong.
Yeah, it does. Abuse is abuse. If the only way you can reason with a child is to physically strike the child, you've failed as a parent. You're teaching your child that violence is an acceptable solution to a problem, and that it's OK for a bigger person to lash out at those who are smaller and defenseless. Kids need patience and guidance, not the back of a hand from the people they love, trust, and rely on the most.

We wouldn't tolerate it if one adult struck another adult in public, so I'm not sure why it should be OK to strike a defenseless child.

I'm sure that over the preceding 26 pages, the tired justification of "I was spanked and turned out OK" has been trotted out several times. I know someone who was molested and turned out OK. That doesn't mean the molestation was acceptable.

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Old 10-13-2012, 07:00 AM
 
Location: TX
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Yeah, it does. Abuse is abuse. If the only way you can reason with a child is to physically strike the child, you've failed as a parent. You're teaching your child that violence is an acceptable solution to a problem, and that it's OK for a bigger person to lash out at those who are smaller and defenseless. Kids need patience and guidance, not the back of a hand from the people they love, trust, and rely on the most.

We wouldn't tolerate it if one adult struck another adult in public, so I'm not sure why it should be OK to strike a defenseless child.

I'm sure that over the preceding 26 pages, the tired justification of "I was spanked and turned out OK" has been trotted out several times. I know someone who was molested and turned out OK. That doesn't mean the molestation was acceptable.
Agreed. I think spanking is "OK" specifically because children can't defend themselves. Same reason it used to be "OK" to be a racist sexist burning people alive because you thought they were witches back in the day. None of these people could defend themselves back then either. None of these backward views were challenged by anyone who wasn't about to be executed, so none of them were corrected.

Now all of a sudden, children are people and not property. Some parents can't handle the concept, which explains all the resistance to promoting far better alternatives for the way to discipline a child.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:11 AM
 
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So, what happened? Any updates?
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Old 10-13-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pa
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Yeah, it does. Abuse is abuse. If the only way you can reason with a child is to physically strike the child, you've failed as a parent. You're teaching your child that violence is an acceptable solution to a problem, and that it's OK for a bigger person to lash out at those who are smaller and defenseless. Kids need patience and guidance, not the back of a hand from the people they love, trust, and rely on the most.

We wouldn't tolerate it if one adult struck another adult in public, so I'm not sure why it should be OK to strike a defenseless child.

I'm sure that over the preceding 26 pages, the tired justification of "I was spanked and turned out OK" has been trotted out several times. I know someone who was molested and turned out OK. That doesn't mean the molestation was acceptable.
A spanking isn't abuse. A few swats to the butt with a hand when young is not abuse.
It becomes abuse when it becomes excessive and turns into belts, hairbrushes,spoons,etc.
I personally do not support spanking.
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