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Old 05-22-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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Heard from the philosopher, Stefan Molyneux that Europeans spank their kids at much lower rates than in the United States. Apparently, this can be attributed to the 'post war' mentality that influenced social development in Western Europe in the latter half of the 20th century which had little in the US in terms of parenting.


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My question for American posters, do you think this is good or bad?

I've always wondered something, when European couples move to the US and have children, do they start spanking their kids and vice versa for American couples in Western Europe?

 
Old 05-22-2017, 02:32 PM
 
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I can't say that Europeans 'spank' their kids less. Certainly not my experience as a child.
 
Old 05-22-2017, 02:38 PM
 
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OP, it varies by country, as the above post indicates. And why would Euro expats in the US change their child-rearing customs? Those who feel that spanking is barbaric would have no incentive to change, see what I mean?
Also, in the US, spanking is far from universal. Parents who follow a Progressivist child-rearing model don't spank, and this has been true since the 30's or so. The US is just as diverse in that regard as in any other. Furthermore, parents who are good with their kids from infancy, and succeed in building trust on the part of the child toward them, and a strong bond, have no need to spank. The need simply doesn't arise.
 
Old 05-22-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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I find it crazy that France, US and other western countries still allow corporal punishment of children.
 
Old 05-22-2017, 05:14 PM
 
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I find it crazy that France, US and other western countries still allow corporal punishment of children.
"Allow"? Is spanking illegal in Scandinavia? Could a parent get arrested for spanking their child?
 
Old 05-22-2017, 05:18 PM
 
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OP, it varies by country, as the above post indicates. And why would Euro expats in the US change their child-rearing customs? Those who feel that spanking is barbaric would have no incentive to change, see what I mean?
Also, in the US, spanking is far from universal. Parents who follow a Progressivist child-rearing model don't spank, and this has been true since the 30's or so. The US is just as diverse in that regard as in any other. Furthermore, parents who are good with their kids from infancy, and succeed in building trust on the part of the child toward them, and a strong bond, have no need to spank. The need simply doesn't arise.
Bravo - that sums it up beautifully!
 
Old 05-22-2017, 07:22 PM
 
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My father didn't spank me when I was a child but he would yell and break furniture all the time. My mom always says that he's a normal german guy. 😂

I think spanking is ok depending on the situation but should be used as a last resort kind of thing.

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Old 05-22-2017, 08:52 PM
 
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I think in the last 20 years spanking has become very rare in the US. Especially amongst the lower-middle class and higher.

Being seen spanking your child could make one a social pariah and you might even have your children taken away. But if you want to see it in the wild, head to your local Walmart, especially one with a lot of immigrants.
 
Old 05-22-2017, 09:45 PM
 
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"Allow"? Is spanking illegal in Scandinavia? Could a parent get arrested for spanking their child?
Of course it is. It has been prohibited since 1987 in Norway. Yes, you might get arrested here, so no one spanks kids in public. 5-6 years ago a saw a woman (British, but not of ethnic origin) smack her child in the face in London. I was shocked
 
Old 05-22-2017, 11:03 PM
 
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All children ARE DIFFERENT.
Some plainly refuse any reasoning, some just want to push their boundaries, some are so quiet that you have to pill them off like chewing gum.
Some don't require any spanking, some do.
There is no one recipe for all.
But I am talking about younger children of course.
When they get older, they already have brains and understand the reasoning.
At this point, if the trust and understanding between child and parent is not established, and boundaries are not set, it's too late to get physical with children. It means the bond is not there, and it will bring only more resistance and trouble.
That's the way I see it.
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