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Unfortunately society looks at it differently now. I was recently at LAX and saw mom getting arrested. Her crime was giving a spank to her child for misbehaving. That is right she got arrested for spanking her child in public and CPS took her kids in to protective custody. Discipline as what we experienced will now lead to your arrest if done in public.
This is an oft mistaken equivalency that discipline = spanking and hitting.
Your friends aren't doing their job as parents. It's not about children "knowing their place." It's about basic manners and consideration.
And yeah, it's your friends. People I know with younger children and teens teach them manners and consideration.
BTW--what makes you think an appetizer you order at a table with multiple people is for adults only? Unless it's been stated upfront that the appetizer is only for certain people, the expectation that children cannot have it is rude as well.
This may be a generational issue, but my presumption is that people order what they intend to eat unless they say otherwise. I don't presume that I will be free to eat someone else's food.
My expectation is, "No, you can't have my food," and I don't expect to be reaching into his plate, either. Nor would I allow my children to reach into his plate.
This is an oft mistaken equivalency that discipline = spanking and hitting.
Yes. We went to Scandinavia for about 1 month. Half the time we stayed with a relative. The other half was spent at campgrounds. I heard 1 temper tantrum and that was in Copenhagen airport. I never heard a raised voice from an adult nor spanking and we were the loudest people there, often having to remind each other to be quiet especially when people were getting upset in our party.
Well, that is not true. One Swede on a bike did raise his voice to children who were riding abreast. They quickly formed a single line.
That's why so many kids feel bold enough to flex on their parents, because the government has made it to where parents can't discipline their kids. That mom was doing her job and disciplining her child for misbehavior. In other words, the kids have more rights than parents in today's society.
Yep and I have read about school calling cops on parents because parent dared to disciplined their child at home by spanking. The new way to discipline is "time out". Sending them to their bedroom that have all of their toys. To me that is not disciplined. As you said parents this days no longer have any power to discipline their kids properly and IMHO that leads to issue at school in terms of behavior.
This may be a generational issue, but my presumption is that people order what they intend to eat unless they say otherwise. I don't presume that I will be free to eat someone else's food.
My expectation is, "No, you can't have my food," and I don't expect to be reaching into his plate, either. Nor would I allow my children to reach into his plate.
This is an oft mistaken equivalency that discipline = spanking and hitting.
Often times getting kids to behave quickly is a quick spanking.. It worked on million of kids and they turned out just fine. Kids need to remember what happens when they misbehave. Spanking been used for thousand of years and all of the sudden its wrong way to discipline
Yep and I have read about school calling cops on parents because parent dared to disciplined their child at home by spanking. The new way to discipline is "time out". Sending them to their bedroom that have all of their toys. To me that is not disciplined. As you said parents this days no longer have any power to discipline their kids properly and IMHO that leads to issue at school in terms of behavior.
Highly telling. Well the whole post is. But that word in particular.
Well, yes, my child calls the shots but she is told when, where, and how far the shot can go. That requires teaching on my part and skill, such as knowing how much freedom to give.
Really, don't break your neck falling off your high horse. How old is your daughter?
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Originally Posted by Delahanty
The OP clearly stated, We ordered appetizers for the adults...
Well, I think that's kind of rude. The kid was probably hungry, too! And unless that was made explicit, what was the problem with the kid having some?
my sister called the shots. she came of age in the reagan era. our family was not materialistic before, anti vietnam greenpeace etc. she spent a fortune on dept store makeup enough to buy a house a yacht a house on the moon.
Yes. We went to Scandinavia for about 1 month. Half the time we stayed with a relative. The other half was spent at campgrounds. I heard 1 temper tantrum and that was in Copenhagen airport. I never heard a raised voice from an adult nor spanking and we were the loudest people there, often having to remind each other to be quiet especially when people were getting upset in our party.
Well, that is not true. One Swede on a bike did raise his voice to children who were riding abreast. They quickly formed a single line.
So what is their secret? What do they do or not do that results in such well-behaved children, that we in the U.S. could also do or not do?
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That's why so many kids feel bold enough to flex on their parents, because the government has made it to where parents can't discipline their kids. That mom was doing her job and disciplining her child for misbehavior. In other words, the kids have more rights than parents in today's society.
