CDC issues guidelines for Halloween, Day of the Dead, Thanksgiving (babysitting, one year old)
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I’m totally aware that candy is unhealthy and I do know parents who won’t let their kids have all of it or even some of it and who get really controlling when it comes to sugar in general. I like for my kids to eat healthy but also love for them to enjoy it at times and am even fine with allowing them to overindulge a few times a year on special occasions with Halloween candy, Easter, etc. I don’t have any rules in regards to their candy. If they want to eat it all the first night, they’ll learn via a major stomach ache. If they want to spread it out, that’s fine too. Not my candy, not my decisions. The only thing I ask is that they keep it out of reach so the dogs don’t get into it.
I'm not arguing with you. Just sayin', a lot of parents complain about the candy, but now all of a sudden, it's paramount.
Isn't it safe to say that the parents who don't like ToT for whatever reason and/or don't let their kids eat the candy anyway probably aren't the ones who really want to see ToT happen this year?
Isn't it safe to say that the parents who don't like ToT for whatever reason and/or don't let their kids eat the candy anyway probably aren't the ones who really want to see ToT happen this year?
I do think that’s a safe assumption. I’m really happy my kids can enjoy trick or treating this year when there are so few opportunities right now for them to do anything fun. Having fun and enjoying traditions is an important component to life. Getting covid is low on my list of things to worry about. If it happens, it happens and trick or treating is one of the lowest risk activities that we are doing. Grocery shopping seems way more risky as does school and sports. I don’t get the pearl clutching over this at all. It almost feels like kids are being picked on and singled out. Meanwhile, adults are at bars and restaurants and you barely hear a word about it.
Last edited by MissTerri; 10-08-2020 at 10:04 AM..
Isn't it safe to say that the parents who don't like ToT for whatever reason and/or don't let their kids eat the candy anyway probably aren't the ones who really want to see ToT happen this year?
Oh? Did you do a survey? People seem to often want what they can't have. No, I don't think it's "safe" to say that.
I do think that’s a safe assumption. I’m really happy my kids can enjoy trick or treating this year when there are so few opportunities right now for them to do anything fun. Having fun and enjoying traditions is an important component to life. Getting covid is low on my list of things to worry about. If it happens, it happens and trick or treating is one of the lowest risk activities that we are doing. Grocery shopping seems way more risky as does school and sports. I don’t get the pearl clutching over this at all. It almost feels like kids are doing picked on and singled out. Meanwhile, adults are at bars and restaurants and you barely hear a word about it.
And yet, on another thread, you were pushing for schools to start up because of "mental health" reasons, and now your kids aren't happy there, either.
Yes, I did want schools to reopen and it’s true that it has been hard due to covid restrictions. It’s like they took all of the fun parts of school out completely. Not sure what it has to do with this thread.
You’re seriously asking for peer reviewed data to show that going for a walk outdoors with a sibling and collecting candy is low risk? Why are you so worried about trick or treating and not worried about all of the low to moderate risk things you do yourself? Like getting together with friends from your bubble and picking up takeout and going to the grocery store instead of just getting it delivered. Seriously. Worry about what is in your control. Kids trick or treating is not going to impact you if you focus one what is in your control. People are not obligated to give up living life completely in order to keep others safe from covid. Take care of yourself.
Back in ancient times, I lived on a Manhattan street which had two candy stores. One was your local "penny type" store. On the other side of the street was a handmade (expensive) chocolates store.
First place neighborhood kids went TorT was the cheap candy store. People's homes? lol I didn't want the junk candy, and left them to go to the chocolates store. Very discerning about my candy. TorT! Can I have some Dark Chocolate Maple Walnut Creams? Yeah, they gave them to me. Maybe I didn't get as much candy, but what I got was BETTER. Dad used to fight with me over the chocolates. "Can I have just ONE?" Ok, Dad.
One year instead of buying candy, I bought mini bags of microwaveable popcorn. The older kids were really thrilled when they saw that. PopCORN isn't a food item? Besides, husband and I will eat the popcorn ourselves if we don't give it all out.
^^One year, back before I had kids of my own, my local Safeway had little bags of peanuts (this was also back before peanuts were "bad") on sale right before Halloween. I bought some and DH flipped out; said he most certainly wouldn't have liked to get peanuts on Halloween, blah, blah, blah. So I went and bought some candy as well and gave the kids a choice. The older kids all chose the peanuts.
Yes, I did want schools to reopen and it’s true that it has been hard due to covid restrictions. It’s like they took all of the fun parts of school out completely. Not sure what it has to do with this thread.
You’re seriously asking for peer reviewed data to show that going for a walk outdoors with a sibling and collecting candy is low risk? Why are you so worried about trick or treating and not worried about all of the low to moderate risk things you do yourself? Like getting together with friends from your bubble and picking up takeout and going to the grocery store instead of just getting it delivered. Seriously. Worry about what is in your control. Kids trick or treating is not going to impact you if you focus one what is in your control. People are not obligated to give up living life completely in order to keep others safe from covid. Take care of yourself.
The school issue has to do with you saying you think school is riskier than T or T, yet you were advocating, advocating, and advocating some more for schools to reopen.
Yes, I'd like to see a peer-reviewed study about T or T being low risk, since the CDC considers it high risk. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagan_standard
You're basically going against the recommendations of the CDC and all the departments of health nationwide. Here is a sampling:
Connecticut: https://www.ctpost.com/news/coronavi...s-15615204.php "Other haunted traditions the agency recommends avoiding this year: indoor haunted houses “where people may be crowded together and screaming,” hayrides with people from different households, and trick-or-treating where candy is handed out door-to-door or from car trunks."
Indiana: https://wrbiradio.com/2020/10/02/sta...afe-halloween/ "During Wednesday’s COVID-19 briefing with Governor Eric Holcomb, Indiana State Health Commissioner Dr. Kristina Box said she doesn’t want to be the “witch” who ruins Halloween, but she doesn’t want COVID-19 to ruin it either. Dr. Box gave several recommendations for Halloween activities this year based on what the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released last week. . . . High risk: Activities are the more traditional Halloween events including door-to-door trick-or-treating. Trunk-or-treat, where cars hand out candy in a parking lot, is also considered high risk according to Dr. Box."
New Mexico: https://www.governor.state.nm.us/202...loween-events/
CDC recs plus: "The state’s emergency health order and all its operative guidelines and restrictions – including the requirement to wear facemasks at all times in public and the restriction on gatherings of more than 10 individuals – applies to all prospective Halloween events and activities." That would seem to negate the 5-6 family Trunk or Treat that one family on this thread is planning.
Illinois: Halloween Guidance | IDPH "1. As an alternative to door-to-door trick-or-treating, anyone who would like to distribute treats should leave individually wrapped candy or treats on a table, on their front walkways, sidewalks, or any outdoor space that allows for at least 6 feet of social distance from the door. The individually wrapped candy should be spread out so each piece is not touching another. Anyone distributing candy or treats should wash their hands properly for at least 20 seconds before placing the candy on the table and when replenishing.
2. All individuals participating in trick-or-treating, including those passing out candy should maintain social distance of least 6 feet and wear proper face coverings. A costume mask, such as those worn for Halloween, is not a substitute for a face covering. If face coverings are worn under costume masks, please ensure this does not create breathing problems, and if so, discard the costume mask.
3. Only household members should trick-or-treat together, and they should maintain 6-feet social distance from other trick-or-treaters at all times. Mixed household trick-or-treaters are discouraged.
4. Alcohol-based hand sanitizer should be carried and used frequently.
5. Candy collected during trick-or-treating should not be consumed until after handwashing. As always, a parent/guardian should check all candy to make sure it is wrapped and should discard unwrapped candy.
6. And, of course, practice good dental hygiene as well.
7. Outdoor areas are preferred for trick-or-treating. Enclosed indoor areas, like apartment buildings, present greater risk of transmission. Open doors and windows as appropriate to promote increased ventilation"
Some of the posters on here are planning to T or T with neighbors/close friends.
Just what do you think I am doing? I have not had any social gatherings with friends. I walk most every day with 1 or 2 other masked friends. We're adults and we socially distance as well.
We do takeout maybe 1 X a week at MOST. We go grocery shopping early in the mornings when the stores aren't crowded, and everyone is required to wear a mask. We started that pre-Covid so DH could get some exercise when he needed some assistance. He'd push the cart instead of taking his walker.
There are many days that I don't go anywhere except for the walk around my 'hood.
While you're at it, show me some peer-reviewed literature that says what I'm doing is even "moderate risk".
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