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Old 03-11-2009, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Not true.

I've known many high business people who swear on a regular basis, and I dare say they make more than you do and hold higher positions.

It has nothing to do with intellect. Carelessness maybe, but not intellect.

how much they make has nothing to do with it...I work with very high level position people, and they don't need to swear...and if they did, I surely wouldn't respect them as much as I do now...
Swearing has become a culture, one that many still deem unacceptable...and just b/c someone is in a high level corporate postion, doesn't mean, they have a grasp of the english language, and yes, it most certainly does have to do with intellect, and the ability to also understand, that it may insult others.

I have worked with many many corporate leaders, and there is only one that comes to mind that swore every now and then...

so, who we know that swear and don't swear is not the topic here

the topic is about a toddler who swore in the store and said the F word in front of everyone and his parents never flinched. Never repromanded him, or took him out of the cart and spanked his bottom, or yelled at him...whatever...they treated it as if it was acceptable behavior...

How they choose to repromand the child is their business, but to simply ignore what he said is wrong...

again, if the child is saying it at 3 years old, then the father or mother or both are saying it.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Not smacking your child in the face in no way equals fearing discipline. Sheesh....

There may be a lot of wayward kids out there because they were smacked and never learned how to control themselves effectively.
there may, but there may not...

Lets get back on topic shall we?
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:32 AM
 
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...and if they did, I surely wouldn't respect them as much as I do now...
And it probably wouldn't matter to them whether you do or not.


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Swearing has become a culture, one that many still deem unacceptable...and just b/c someone is in a high level corporate postion, doesn't mean, they have a grasp of the english language, and yes, it most certainly does have to do with intellect
This is only YOUR opinion. Not society as a whole. You are not the judge whether or not people have a good command of the english language.



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so, who we know that swear and don't swear is not the topic here
Swearing IS the topic here.

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the topic is about a toddler who swore in the store and said the F word in front of everyone and his parents never flinched. Never repromanded him, or took him out of the cart and spanked his bottom, or yelled at him...whatever...they treated it as if it was acceptable behavior...
Since you are so very obsessed with a person's quality of english, you should be aware that you spelled reprimand incorrectly.

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How they choose to repromand the child is their business, but to simply ignore what he said is wrong...
Again, only YOUR opinion, and you should not judge strangers, for they may judge YOU one day.

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again, if the child is saying it at 3 years old, then the father or mother or both are saying it.
You don't know that.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Your still talking about slapping a 3 YO who does not even know the meaning of the word that they said. For all you know the kid picked the word up in the store. Little kids seem to pick up swear words the easiest.

I don't get why people assume that it is ok to smack a child. If you smacked an adult that adult could sue you. And yet somehow it is ok to smack a very young child. It's not even as if the child is misbehaving, they are repeating what they hear, not running around in the store or throwing a tantrum.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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and a good parent would...
No, a GOOD parent would know that hitting a child in the mouth, head, ears, or face is child abuse and putting their child at danger for a whole slew of injury including dental trauma, and injuries to the eyes, hearing, brain, jaw, and neck.

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There is nothing wrong with smacking a kid in the mouth...
YES THERE IS. I beg you, for the sake of your child, if you love and care for your child even just a little bit, DO SOME RESEARCH on the subject of orofacial injury in children who have been hit in the face or head. Your ignorance is woeful and persistent, and you show no signs of wanting to learn how to change it.

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I never had to mine, but...if he'd have ever said bad words, I would have
so stop with the insults
Insults? What insults? I'm stating known medical fact. Hitting children in the face or head is DANGEROUS. I'm not saying you cannot use corporal punishment on your child if you so choose, I'm saying DON'T HIT THEM IN THE FACE OR HEAD because you can cause them severe and permanent damage.

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as I said, it's a difference of opinion...
It's not opinion, it's medical fact. Don't be ignorant trash who refuses to see that their method of punishment can harm their child!

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there are to many wayward kids out there today b/c parents fear discipline.
Fearing discipline is NOT the same as knowing HOW to discipline your child without putting them at risk of physical injury!!!

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You parent one way, I parent another,
Yeah. I don't risk giving my kids facial trauma, or brain/neck injuries.

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doesn't make you right, and me wrong...just your opinion...
Once again, let me repeat. THIS IS NOT MY OPINION IT IS MEDICAL FACT. I hope to god that your kid never says a bad word. You might permanently injure him if he does.

Please, do some research and learn something for once. Stop being a stubborn and ignorant parent who insists that an injurious practice is "good" punishment.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:42 AM
 
Location: chicagoland
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No, a GOOD parent would know that hitting a child in the mouth, head, ears, or face is child abuse and putting their child at danger for a whole slew of injury including dental trauma, and injuries to the eyes, hearing, brain, jaw, and neck.



YES THERE IS. I beg you, for the sake of your child, if you love and care for your child even just a little bit, DO SOME RESEARCH on the subject of orofacial injury in children who have been hit in the face or head. Your ignorance is woeful and persistent, and you show no signs of wanting to learn how to change it.


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Insults? What insults? I'm stating known medical fact. Hitting children in the face or head is DANGEROUS. I'm not saying you cannot use corporal punishment on your child if you so choose, I'm saying DON'T HIT THEM IN THE FACE OR HEAD because you can cause them severe and permanent damage.



It's not opinion, it's medical fact. Don't be ignorant trash who refuses to see that their method of punishment can harm their child!



Fearing discipline is NOT the same as knowing HOW to discipline your child without putting them at risk of physical injury!!!



Yeah. I don't risk giving my kids facial trauma, or brain/neck injuries.



Once again, let me repeat. THIS IS NOT MY OPINION IT IS MEDICAL FACT. I hope to god that your kid never says a bad word. You might permanently injure him if he does.

Please, do some research and learn something for once. Stop being a stubborn and ignorant parent who insists that an injurious practice is "good" punishment.

1,000,000,000 rep points to you!!!! Like I said before, if I EVER see a person HIT a child in the HEAD I will hold YOU down until the police get there to PUT YOU AWAY!!!!

Spanking/swatting is NOT BEATING YOUR CHILD IN THE HEAD even if the child used a swear word!!!
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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And it probably wouldn't matter to them whether you do or not.



This is only YOUR opinion. Not society as a whole. You are not the judge whether or not people have a good command of the english language.




Swearing IS the topic here.


Since you are so very obsessed with a person's quality of english, you should be aware that you spelled reprimand incorrectly.


Again, only YOUR opinion, and you should not judge strangers, for they may judge YOU one day.


You don't know that.
and you don't know that either, we could argue our points till the cows come home, but what it comes down to is a matter of opinion.
We then agree to disagree

I never claimed to be a good speller, matter of fact, I'm the absolute worse...

and I didn't claim to have a good grasp of the English language, but what I do claim is, that swearing can be grounds for a lawsuit
a woman with the mouth of a truck driver never impresses anyone...and again, in corporate positions, managers, directors and such, and believe me, our corporation is huge, world wide and over 30,000 where I work, you rarely, rarely hear people swear, it is unprofessional and frowned upon.
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:57 AM
 
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Want to hear a funny story? Ok. And this is true.

When very young, my brother swore and got his mouth washed out with soap. The rest of us didn't think that was what we wanted, so we never said cuss words.

HOWEVER, we knew someone who had 4 little girls. Their mother NEVER cussed. She was the sweetest, quietest thing you ever saw. Their father did swear, but tried to keep the reigns tight around the girls. Well, when the oldest was about 4 (they were all very close in age), she decided she liked swearing, so she would do it all day long.

Of course we kids thought she was very brave for cussing constantly and tried to encourage it as much as possible. We got into trouble for that.

Her younger sister couldn't say TRUCK, and we made her say her version of it over and over again.

Anyway, eventually we stopped encouraging and she stopped cussing and grew up to be a respectable woman.

Moral: So the kid cussed. So what. With the exception of a couple over-sensitive ears, I'm sure people understand things like that happen from time to time.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Montrose, CA
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Smacking your child in the mouth for saying a "bad" word is the same as if you hit your child in the testicles for wetting his pants. If you wouldn't do one, why would you do the other?
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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1,000,000,000 rep points to you!!!! Like I said before, if I EVER see a person HIT a child in the HEAD I will hold YOU down until the police get there to PUT YOU AWAY!!!!

Spanking/swatting is NOT BEATING YOUR CHILD IN THE HEAD even if the child used a swear word!!!
I'm not talking about hitting the kid in the head with brute force? Sheeesh?????

God, this younger generation culture is so thick headed? I'm not talking about punching the kid in the mouth, either.

You guys take it to a whole other side of the spectrum. This is ridiculous...we got slapped across the mouth as kids...all of us, all of us...and it never disfigured or harmed us? If we would have ever said words as such...we would have gotten it across the mouth...no it didn't knock our teeth out, no, it didn't disfigure us, or disjoint anything? What in the world can you guys be thinking? I just don't understand your logic...
and, we would have had to say something pretty darn bad to get our mouths slapped. We very rarely got spanked...

yanno, the difference then, is, that we knew there was a consequence for our actions, so we didn't dare even as much as test our parents. Today, there is none, therefore, with the kids, anything goes, and parents then, find a reason not to spank their kids...like, it may marr them for life...Sheesh...

You need to get a grip on the fact that spanking isn't beating a child...and there is a big big difference.
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