A NY'er visiting Philly.... (Philadelphia, York: how much, new construction, school)

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by tcave360

DC still retains its soul and character in a good number of neighborhoods even in Northwest contrary to the little sensationalism going on in this thread, but some of them are indeed undergoing a constant assault by the gentrification overkill wave, just like New York, Boston, and San Francisco. It's basically like a new form of colonialism going on. You guys up in Philly better hope it doesn't happen to you either.

Other threads have brought up the NE part of Phila which have various neighborhoods which will never experience gentrification because either it's not needed or they won't attract the kinds of people who push gentrification.

[curlydubs]

Originally Posted by rotodome

DC to me is not a place that makes me think positively about gentrification.

agreed, I HATE it when a city booms and old buildings are renovated, new ones go up on vacant lots as in-fill, tons of more people move in and add vitality, crime goes down. Oh, the horror!!!!

[pman]

Originally Posted by tcave360

DC still retains its soul and character in a good number of neighborhoods even in Northwest contrary to the little sensationalism going on in this thread, but some of them are indeed undergoing a constant assault by the gentrification overkill wave, just like New York, Boston, and San Francisco. It's basically like a new form of colonialism going on. You guys up in Philly better hope it doesn't happen to you either.

DC is a unique animal being the seat of empire. people have been criticizing DC for its lack of soul and character for as long as it has existed

[Duderino]

Originally Posted by tcave360

DC still retains its soul and character in a good number of neighborhoods even in Northwest contrary to the little sensationalism going on in this thread, but some of them are indeed undergoing a constant assault by the gentrification overkill wave, just like New York, Boston, and San Francisco. It's basically like a new form of colonialism going on. You guys up in Philly better hope it doesn't happen to you either.

I was writing with a bit of hyperbole. I agree that there is still a lot of character and tons of vibrancy in DC, but development trends definitely do threaten the organic, economically diverse nature of cities, particularly as it relates to local, small businesses. DC is definitely not unique in that regard, either. This has been well-documented in New York City: Jeremiah's Vanishing New York: NYC Before & After

[rotodome]

Originally Posted by curlydubs

agreed, I HATE it when a city booms and old buildings are renovated, new ones go up on vacant lots as in-fill, tons of more people move in and add vitality, crime goes down. Oh, the horror!!!!

yep, it's all great until you and yours and things you value are getting pushed out.

[MB1562]

Originally Posted by cpomp

Ignorance at its finest.

How? Philadelphia does not have the high-paying jobs base that those other three cities do. That is a fact, and doesn't mean Philadelphia is any less than those other three cities, but it can't attract top people when the jobs they need aren't as readily available here.

[2e1m5a]

Originally Posted by MB1562

How? Philadelphia does not have the high-paying jobs base that those other three cities do. That is a fact, and doesn't mean Philadelphia is any less than those other three cities, but it can't attract top people when the jobs they need aren't as readily available here.

Let's see your numbers or facts as you say.

You are delusional if you think Philadelphia doesn't have a high paying job base or "ultra high net worth individuals" as so many on this site are so strangely obsessed with.

I believe Philly actually has more Billionaires than DC but only a shallow or boring person cares about it IMO.

[Duderino]

Originally Posted by MB1562

How? Philadelphia does not have the high-paying jobs base that those other three cities do. That is a fact, and doesn't mean Philadelphia is any less than those other three cities, but it can't attract top people when the jobs they need aren't as readily available here.

In the city proper, while there is certainly a high of white collar jobs, I think you're point is that there aren't as many proportionately compared to benchmark cities. While that is true, it's important to keep in mind that the Philadelphia metro area, still unbeknownst to many, has one of the highest concentrations of white collar jobs in the US, based on per capita and raw numbers, even surpassing major metro areas like New York, LA, and Chicago (per capita).

See ranking here: http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjourna...nkings-of.html

Not bad for a post-industrial area.

[MB1562]

Originally Posted by Duderino

In the city proper, while there is certainly a high of white collar jobs, I think you're point is that there aren't as many proportionately compared to benchmark cities. While that is true, it's important to keep in mind that the Philadelphia metro area, still unbeknownst to many, has one of the highest concentrations of white collar jobs in the US, based on per capita and raw numbers, even surpassing major metro areas like New York, LA, and Chicago (per capita).

See ranking here: http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjourna...nkings-of.html

Not bad for a post-industrial area.

Yes you said better than what I was trying to say. I was only referring to the city proper, not the metro area. When I pointed that out, people seemed to assume that because of this, it made Philadelphia a "less-than" city then the others. I was simply pointing out that Philadelphia will not gentrify at the rate, or to the extent, of the wealthier cities on the Northeast Corridor. In many ways, this will keep Philly more diverse and more interesting than places that everybody but the rich and rent-controlled have been pushed out.

[kyb01]

Originally Posted by MB1562

Yes you said better than what I was trying to say. I was only referring to the city proper, not the metro area. When I pointed that out, people seemed to assume that because of this, it made Philadelphia a "less-than" city then the others. I was simply pointing out that Philadelphia will not gentrify at the rate, or to the extent, of the wealthier cities on the Northeast Corridor. In many ways, this will keep Philly more diverse and more interesting than places that everybody but the rich and rent-controlled have been pushed out.

So let's end this once and for, bloody, all: Some areas/neighborhoods in the city do not need gentrification. And,thank God, if it did happen in those place! as you suggest above, it would impact the very soul of those places.

I was in DC for the first time in a year yesterday. Sure all the cranes look impressive, but the stuff being built is some of the ugliest structures I've ever seen. Boring. Lack-luster. No style. Eh..... The height limits do not help but there is no inventiveness at all in any of the buildings I saw.