What Phoenix Lacks is.... (areas, cities, place)

[Guerilla]

Originally Posted by sablebaby

I don't get why people comment on our homes being close together. It's not like we are the first to do this. There are so many areas of the country, old and new that have very close lots. I see it all the time either in person when I travel or on tv.

It's a compliment. More homes in the West are built like that. In the East and South, more homes are spaced out. Go look at the link I provided, which will show you that. Don't know what the problem is.

USA Urbanized Areas: 2000 Ranked by Population(465 Areas)

[sablebaby]

Originally Posted by Guerilla

It's a compliment. More homes in the West are built like that. In the East and South, more homes are spaced out. Go look at the link I provided, which will show you that. Don't know what the problem is.

USA Urbanized Areas: 2000 Ranked by Population(465 Areas)

I don't think you understand what any of us are talking about.

[Guerilla]

Originally Posted by sablebaby

I don't think you understand what any of us are talking about.

Why do you say that?

[londonbarcelona]

Originally Posted by sablebaby

I don't get why people comment on our homes being close together. It's not like we are the first to do this. There are so many areas of the country, old and new that have very close lots. I see it all the time either in person when I travel or on tv.

I don't think they are that small. Besides, if we had too much land, it would be too rural! I like it the way it is.

[Guerilla]

They really aren't that small. Just closer together than the East (I like the way Phoenix is).

[HX_Guy]

The East where...in rural parts? Look at neighborhoods in Boston, Chicago, Philly, Pittsburgh etc etc etc where they have houses feet apart from each other and this small backyard.

Here are some houses from Pittsburgh...you're telling me that these are further apart and have larger lots then houses in Phoenix?

[Guerilla]

The suburbs. Not the core city, the SUBURBS. That is why I provided that link to show the largest urban areas in America. The East Coast urban areas are less dense than the West Coast urban areas.

That's why I provided that link because I knew someone would start posting photos of the core of eastern cities.

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by Guerilla

The suburbs. Not the core city, the SUBURBS. That is why I provided that link to show the largest urban areas in America. The East Coast urban areas are less dense than the West Coast urban areas.

That's why I provided that link because I knew someone would start posting photos of the core of eastern cities.

I, for one, agree with your basic point. Suburbs here ARE dense. Phoenix burbs pack 'em in tight.

Several years ago, USA Today has a big story on urban/sprawl. Interestingly, and correctly, Phoenix metro was a low sprawl city/metro compared to many places in the east. Nashville was the sprawl winner and I would agree with that having visited there. It is miles upon miles of 1-10 acre spreads. If we had our 4 million spread out like that we'd stretch to the Colorado.

The sardine can style of subdividing is not unique to Phoenix though. You see the same thing in all the western boom cities. Seattle is maybe the worst case of it. Houses in new developments there are so close together that you wonder how they applied the siding.

[Guerilla]

^^Exactly. Phoenix is not alone, as Los Angeles, Portland, and Bay Area suburbs do the same thing as Phoenix.

[Greatday]

If you would like to read how "some" would like the valley to be (as well as other urban areas), this website might be of interest

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