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[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Burning Madolf

You make no sense and have not written anything here that either shows understanding or solutions.
You're a "well, we have to do something and whatever the government and the boob tube tell me must be true" kind of guy and that is the most dangerous citizen of all.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Sno0909

The ego that you must have, thinking humans can change an entire planet and fix everything for the good. Have you seen how humans behave? We pretty much destroy everything we touch. And yes, the planet has a way of fixing itself. I don't proclaim to be a scientist or geologist and explain how, I just know that it seems true and likely. https://news.mit.edu/2022/earth-stab...table%20range. Or look at how more CO2 in the atmosphere has caused our planet to be greener than it's been in a long, long time.

But I shouldn't be surprised by your response, as this is typical liberal, progressive thought. Everything to you people is a puzzle you can solve. We need only to say the right things, enact the right policies, and spend enough money, and we will suffer no more societal or planetary problems. It's also a fantasy.

**I also highly recommend you read the link. Very insightful.

1. In regard to "I don't proclaim to be a scientist or geologist and explain how, I just know that it seems true and likely"...well, I have B.S. and M.S. Degrees in geology, with associated work in meteorology, climatology, and hydrology, although I went into the field of education.

2. Interesting how you picked and chose what you wanted to remember from the article you recommended. For example: “On the one hand, it’s good because we know that today’s global warming will eventually be canceled out through this stabilizing feedback,” says Constantin Arnscheidt, a graduate student in MIT’s Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences (EAPS). “But on the other hand, it will take hundreds of thousands of years to happen, so not fast enough to solve our present-day issues."”

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by Greenvalleyfan

Let's do some selfish math using your 20 to 100yrs. I'm 66, so in 20yrs I'll probably be dead or have a drool bucket hanging around my neck. In 100 yrs I'm certain I'll be dead unless science unlocks the fountain of youth and it's covered by Medicare. Otherwise, keep the fossil fuels coming and make it cheap!

To summarize, you said you are selfish. Because you don't care about what happens after YOU die. I do. I have kids and a grandkid on the way. Forgetting them, I would consider myself a piece of crap if I didn't care about what happens when I am gone. As you say, to each their own.

[Burning Madolf]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

To summarize, you said you are selfish. Because you don't care about what happens after YOU die. I do. I have kids and a grandkid on the way. Forgetting them, I would consider myself a piece of crap if I didn't care about what happens when I am gone. As you say, to each their own.

Congrats on the grandkid. Here's to hoping he or she won't see $100 trillion in debt before his or her fiftieth birthday (as opposed to fifteenth).

[Greenvalleyfan]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

To summarize, you said you are selfish. Because you don't care about what happens after YOU die. I do. I have kids and a grandkid on the way. Forgetting them, I would consider myself a piece of crap if I didn't care about what happens when I am gone. As you say, to each their own.

Well, don't forget them and you won't think of yourself as a piece of crap. I don't know them so I don't have the responsibility of feeling guilty for your grand children. You went there, so you reap the benefits.

[phetaroi]

Originally Posted by Burning Madolf

Congrats on the grandkid. Here's to hoping he or she won't see $100 trillion in debt before his or her fiftieth birthday (as opposed to fifteenth).

You may have forgotten that the topic here is weather and climate.

[Burning Madolf]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

You may have forgotten that the topic here is weather and climate.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The climate hawks see climate change as the world's greatest existential crisis and have absolutely no problem throwing billions and trillions of dollars at the issue (deputy sect of energy Turk says the net cost of going carbon neutral is about $50 trillion).

There, I've linked it to this thread: debt accumulated by governments, especially to supposedly fight climate change, will make life incredibly difficult for MN's unborn grandchild (and everyone else).

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by Burning Madolf

Congrats on the grandkid. Here's to hoping he or she won't see $100 trillion in debt before his or her fiftieth birthday (as opposed to fifteenth).

Oh, we both know that it will hit $100T. Economically speaking, I can sleep at night knowing our kids will be at the top of the food chain. And our pending grandkid will have two docs for parents. If anyone is going to suffer, in comparison, I hate to see what's going to happen the the rest of society.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

You may have forgotten that the topic here is weather and climate.

I don't mind. Burning Madolf is a good egg. He isn't too far off the mark.

[TurcoLoco]

Originally Posted by Burning Madolf

(deputy sect of energy Turk says the net cost of going carbon neutral is about $50 trillion)

Please leave me out of it, I said no such thing!