Is the geography of Pittsburgh's murders changing? (Allentown, Penn Hills: for sale, real estate)

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Originally Posted by wpipkins2

The black communities were mostly located in the lower sections of the cities. As Industry increased black people were displaced by larger factories. During WWII the mills increased production and since New Homestead has a large riverfront blacks were most likely displaced by industry. This happened in Clairton, PA and there are still houses adjacent to the huge coke works plant. Clairton's black baseball field is in the shadow of the huge USS Coke Works plant. There are 50 - 100 foot slag piles right next to homes along the Peter's Creek area.

Yeah. I know if you look at the 1940 census numbers compared to the 1960 numbers, you'll note that some areas which had a small but recordable black population, like South Side and Central/Upper Lawrenceville, went to essentially having zero black people. My understanding is in those cases it was because the black sections of the neighborhood (often just a few blocks) were in the way of mill expansion. Once they were gone, residents had no choice but to move to a more heavily black neighborhood.

[wpipkins2]

Originally Posted by eschaton

Yeah. I know if you look at the 1940 census numbers compared to the 1960 numbers, you'll note that some areas which had a small but recordable black population, like South Side and Central/Upper Lawrenceville, went to essentially having zero black people. My understanding is in those cases it was because the black sections of the neighborhood (often just a few blocks) were in the way of mill expansion. Once they were gone, residents had no choice but to move to a more heavily black neighborhood.

I never knew a community existed on Lawrenceville. I met an older black gentleman who was originally from Bloomfield. I though that was kind of odd. He explained that his family was there before the Italian immigrants arrived. Prior to that Bloomfield was a German hood. I never knew that either.

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by wpipkins2

I never knew a community existed on Lawrenceville. I met an older black gentleman who was originally from Bloomfield. I though that was kind of odd. He explained that his family was there before the Italian immigrants arrived. Prior to that Bloomfield was a German hood. I never knew that either.

Here's some 1940 to 1970 comparisons

South Side Flats: 431 to 55
Central Lawrenceville: 228 to 0
Bloomfield: 459 to 52

Lower Lawrenceville had a fairly stable black community throughout this period.

[wpipkins2]

Originally Posted by eschaton

Here's some 1940 to 1970 comparisons

South Side Flats: 431 to 55
Central Lawrenceville: 228 to 0
Bloomfield: 459 to 52

Lower Lawrenceville had a fairly stable black community throughout this period.

News to me. I was familiar with the Strip District shanty towns but unaware for Lawrenceville. During my younger years Lawrenceville was so far gone I had no connection to that place with the exception of an occasional get together at Arsenal Lanes.

[selltheburgh]

Originally Posted by bradjl2009

Garfield, East Liberty, and Homewood I believe also have the typical white flight example such as Larimer.

My block and the blocks around me in East Liberty were mostly Jewish in the 40s-70s. There are lots of old synagogues around and there was a kosher deli in a shack store front that is now my back yard. As far as I know, many of those families moved to Sq Hill, Stanton Heights, or the suburbs in the 80s and 90s.

[bradjl2009]

Originally Posted by selltheburgh

My block and the blocks around me in East Liberty were mostly Jewish in the 40s-70s. There are lots of old synagogues around and there was a kosher deli in a shack store front that is now my back yard. As far as I know, many of those families moved to Sq Hill, Stanton Heights, or the suburbs in the 80s and 90s.

I do go to East Liberty occasionally and the amount of old synagogues in that area is pretty large. I take it none are still used in that purpose anymore?

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Originally Posted by bradjl2009

I do go to East Liberty occasionally and the amount of old synagogues in that area is pretty large.

I'm wondering now that the Urban League is moving out of that old Synagogue on N Negley to Larimer what's going to happen with the building. IIRC it's a historic landmark, but it will be very hard to repurpose, and it's along a prime corridor.

[szug-bot]

Originally Posted by eschaton

I'm wondering now that the Urban League is moving out of that old Synagogue on N Negley to Larimer what's going to happen with the building. IIRC it's a historic landmark, but it will be very hard to repurpose, and it's along a prime corridor.

That building is a gem. Hopefully it is a historic landmark. Now there are two former synagogues - you mean the larger one with the dome?

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Originally Posted by szug-bot

Now there are two former synagogues - you mean the larger one with the dome?

Yes.

[aw_now_what]

There were also synagogues in the 700 and 800 blocks of North Negley. So that's four.