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1. The demographics are pretty simple. Majority of the activists are white, over the age of 40, and they come from suburban and rural areas of the country. Bigger numbers come from the Red States. The majority make good income from jobs and investments. Retirees have enough savings and investments to live comfortably.
2. The "Tea Party" activists have voted for Republicans and will continue to vote for Republicans in the future. The activists are more conservative about social, security and economic matters than the rest of the US population, but they still line up behind more moderate GOP candidates against liberal Democrats in the end.
3. The Tea Party has been around for decades but we didn't have a name for them. They were hard-core supporters of Barry Goldwater's campaign in 1964. They were fervent supporters of the John Birch Society. They were against civil rights legislation and for pro-segregation. They were fierce anti-communists and they supported the US military involvement in Southeast Asia. In the 1970s, they enthusiastically supported Nixon as a response to gains made by women, persons of color and young people during the government activism of the 1960s.
In 1980, they were the lead soldiers for Ronald Reagan's campaign to break down federal government influence. After Clinton won the presidency in 1992, they organized grass-root opposition and used the media to denounce Clinton's policies. They feared the era of Big Government under a Democrat would lead to dictatorship and the ultimate destruction of the United States. You can copy & paste this reaction from the 1990s to this current day.
Only this time, you have a black man with a funny, sounding foreign name. The level of passion and FEAR has been increased by a factor of 10 in the predominately white, conservative and suburban-rural community.
Level-headed Americans know that the Tea Party concepts would be a complete disaster for this country just as socialism would be rejected by the majority of people. The majority of voters fall in the MIDDLE...not the extreme Left or Right. This is a concept that Tea Party (i.e. conservative Republicans) have a hard time understanding.
You don't support fiscal responsibility, free markets, and constitutionally limited government? You, and the rest of the "level-headed Americans" think these are disasterous?
It seems to me that you have queued in on the media elements of the Tea Party, not the idealistic elements.
Just as the thread title supposes: If you don't like the Tea Party, it's ideals, and even it's protest signs, then stop whining and get off your ass and create a counter-movement.
Nothing or no one is stopping you, except your own apathy.
The Tea Party is a counter movement.
A counter-counter movement is just the original movement that the counter movement was counter to.
In other words, Black American's only care about race issues. The other more pressing issues, such as solvency, are just piddly issues that don't matter.
This is the second time you've made a blanket statement about black people in this thread. And you still haven't provided any evidence to your support your first blanket statement...so are you going to start backing up your claims or should I just go ahead and report you now?
This is the second time you've made a blanket statement about black people in this thread. And you still haven't provided any evidence to your support your first blanket statement...so are you going to start backing up your claims or should I just go ahead and report you now?
Report me? LOL
Please, by all means, do that.
But before you do, go back and read every post i've made to this thread. I've answered the question, multiple times. Should I report you for being obtuse? No, I don't stoop to juvenile measures such as that.
But before you do, go back and read every post i've made to this thread. I've answered the question, multiple times. Should I report you for being obtuse? No, I don't stoop to juvenile measures such as that.
No actually you didn't. So maybe you should go back and read the whole thread. But I know you won't so here let me help you:
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Exactly. Apathy went back to the couch on January 20, 2009. It's too much work to counter the Tea Party, especially since there is no zeal left-over from the 2008 campaign. So what do they do? The cry racism. Black people calling a largely white movement racism is about as predictable as the sun setting in the west.
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I'll cut my own comments and ave the moderator some time
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Tell us why you disagree? There's plenty of supporting evidence out there that black people feel negatively about the Tea Party, and most of it is on the basis of racism. Are you disclaiming this evidence as if it doesn't exist?
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Well are you talking about organizations such as the NAACP, which does not represent the views of most black people, or are you talking about black people in general because I haven't seen any evidence that support your theory?
I know several black people who are members of the Tea Party...so when you say "Black people calling a largely white movement racism..." which black people are you referring to?
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The NAACP is a given, I agree. Which leaves us with black individuals. How many YouTube videos do you want? Pick a number, any number.
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Oh ok so we're talking about youtube videos. Okay how bout we go tit for tat. I'll post one then you post one and then we'll just keep going until you admit that you have no idea what every black person in America thinks about the Tea Party and that you just make blanket statements because they sound good.
Yes, we could go tit-for-tat forever. So, i'm asking you, as a (I assume) a Black person: Do you believe that the majority of Black American's put their support behind the ideals of the Tea Party? Not your aunt and uncle or your cousin down the street; the majority of the race. In your opinion, will Black American's be voting for Tea Party conservatives in 2010 and 2012?
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No lets not go off on side streets. You made a statement I would like to see you back it up.
Which brings us up to date...so you claimed that there's plenty of supporting evidence that black people feel negatively about the Tea Party...lets see it.
Oh and you may see it as juvenile but I am tired of people making blanket statements about black people so unless you can prove your statement or just admit that it's your own lopsided opinion based on your personal beliefs about black people I am going to report you.
I think its degrading when liberals classify an entire people like that, as if a person looks at the color of their own skin, and becomes a mindless drone.
Yes, you're absolutely right. And indeed can be reverse oriented whereas an entire group of people, the Tea Party, are considered racist. The over-generalizations are many, and that's the whole point of my posts: to generate exactly what you posted here. Generalizations do suck, but it's not a one way street, as many on the left would love for it to be.
It's clear that Black American's and the Tea Party are not political partners. Why, I have no clue. The only reasoning that has been offered is that it has the appearance of hypocrisy considering the past 8 years weren't exactly rosy. But when the racist element is taken out of the equation, Black American's still do not support the Tea Party. And for some reason, the Black contributors to this forum are strangely silent when it comes down to actually debating the ideals of the Tea Party. They'd rather focus on the white racists who show up in the media coverage.
No actually you didn't. So maybe you should go back and read the whole thread. But I know you won't so here let me help you:
Which brings us up to date...so you claimed that there's plenty of supporting evidence that black people feel negatively about the Tea Party...lets see it.
Oh and you may see it as juvenile but I am tired of people making blanket statements about black people so unless you can prove your statement or just admit that it's your own lopsided opinion based on your personal beliefs about black people I am going to report you.
Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable. You, in your mind, feel that there's not enough repudiation in the media to support the assertion that Black people have negative feelings towards the Tea Party? You somehow believe that Black people are an ally to Tea Partiers?
Really? That's how you feel? You're so convinced that you need to see thousands of pieces of evidence to convince you otherwise?
Just, wow.
And, please, Report Me! Nothing i've said is racist. My views are protected, lopsided or not.
Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable. You, in your mind, feel that there's not enough repudiation in the media to support the assertion that Black people have negative feelings towards the Tea Party? You somehow believe that Black people are an ally to Tea Partiers?
Really? That's how you feel?
It's so cute how you're dancing all around the issue.
I never said that I felt that black people were an ally to the tea partiers.
You said:
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Black people calling a largely white movement racism is about as predictable as the sun setting in the west
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There's plenty of supporting evidence out there that black people feel negatively about the Tea Party, and most of it is on the basis of racism.
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Black American's only care about race issues
So lets see this evidence....go head and post your youtube videos...I'll wait.
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And, please, Report Me! Nothing i've said is racist. My views are protected, lopsided or not.
where did I say your comments were racist? Please quote that phrase, as I don't remember saying it. I said you were making blanket statements....but I guess in your mind since black people ONLY care about racial issues I must be calling you a racist on the low, right?
It's so cute how you're dancing all around the issue.
I never said that I felt that black people were an ally to the tea partiers.
You said:
So lets see this evidence....go head and post your youtube videos...I'll wait.
where did I say your comments were racist? Please quote that phrase, as I don't remember saying it. I said you were making blanket statements....but I guess in your mind since black people ONLY care about racial issues I must be calling you a racist on the low, right?
I refuse to. Know why? Because you, in all your wisdom, feel that am wrong to believe that the majority of Black people disagree with the Tea Party, but yet you have not countered my argument with any evidence proving otherwise. One would have to be completely blind to see that Black people generally are not political partners with the Tea Party. But here you are demanding "evidence." I'll be glad to back up the obvious when you come forth with a preponderance of evidence countering my claim. If you insisit on a majority claim to be validated by me, then i'm insisting on a majority claim by you.
I won't hold my breath. You know i'm right.
PS. Blanket statements aren't a violation. Thank you for revealing cracks in your argument. The TOS is a nice cushion huh? Too bad it doesn't work in this instance.
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