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I love it, corporations are hating corporate health insurance...Obama's plan is working, we'll have Single Payer sooner than I thought
And a government bureaucrat denying you life saving care because you're a lousy bet. In England they have something called a 'Quality-Adjusted Life Year'. Basically, if the cost of a procedure, drug, or treatment will cost more than about $40,000 for every year you're likely to live longer because of said procedure, drug, or treatment they deny it to you. That makes it not a medical decision but a governmental bureaucratic one. ObamaCare will have all the compassion of the IRS and all the efficiency of the Post Office.
And a government bureaucrat denying you life saving care because you're a lousy bet. In England they have something called a 'Quality-Adjusted Life Year'. Basically, if the cost of a procedure, drug, or treatment will cost more than about $40,000 for every year you're likely to live longer because of said procedure, drug, or treatment they deny it to you. That makes it not a medical decision but a governmental bureaucratic one. ObamaCare will have all the compassion of the IRS and all the efficiency of the Post Office.
Yeah not like here where life saving care is denied because of ability to pay.
Yeah not like here where life saving care is denied because of ability to pay.
Is there any signifigant difference in whether or not you can't come up with the money or the government deems you a poor risk? The major difference is that those rich bass-turds could pay for a needed procedure, until 2014, when it will no longer be allowed under the current healthcare reform. I guess that's social justice? Money will be useless to those who have the most, unless they are willing to hop on a plane and make some overseas doctor wealthy. Isn't this the equivelent of shipping jobs overseas?
But then why cut out benefits for the adult long term workers? If they have so many part time student workers then it shouldn't cost that much to offer decent (not shabby as it's being reported for the benefits they do offer) benefits for the ones who deserve it. The average McDonalds restaurant open at least a year had sales of $2.3 million in 2008. I guess it's too much to ask for decent health coverage. They still will be making millions.....it all comes down to greed.
You make it sound like $2.3 million is sales is $2.3 million in walking away money. Subtract salaries, payroll taxes, real estate taxes, food cost, insurance, franchise fees, napkins, condiments, signage, electricity, gas, telephone, legal services, and the rest of the almost innumerable costs of doing business and you're talking about an annual salary in the low six figures -all for an investment (aka risk) of over half a million dollars. Easy Street it ain't.
Funny that McDonalds must provide health care insurance in Europe etc. , must pay much more in wages and still has huge record profit margins over there.
They do it because they can do it here. Not because they can't afford it. The U.S. allows them to exploit employees BIG TIME.
A major reason profits are higher is because overseas companies don't have to pay the US's absurdly high corporate tax rates (2nd highest in the world, only Japan's is higher and they're hurting because of it) unless and until they repatriate the money. I'd love to know how much a typical meal costs there as opposed to here.
Unless regulators waive a requirement of the health-care overhaul, McDonald’s has warned federal regulators it could drop its health insurance plan for almost 30,000 hourly workers, The Wall Street Journal reported.
Update: Steve Russell, Senior Vice President and Chief People Officer at McDonald's USA released a statement last night that says, in part:
Media reports stating that we plan to drop health care coverage for our employees are completely false...McDonald's is committed to providing competitive pay and benefits, and the strongest employment opportunities possible.
Another widely inaccurate thread title. Nice catch, Katiana.
Yeah not like here where life saving care is denied because of ability to pay.
I see patients on a daily basis who have little or no money getting procedures with four figure price tags. Either Medicaid pays, they have supplemental insurance, or they take a payment plan and pay what they can. In any case we see them and treat them. There are municipal and charity hospitals in every city and town in America.
Is there any signifigant difference in whether or not you can't come up with the money or the government deems you a poor risk? The major difference is that those rich bass-turds could pay for a needed procedure, until 2014, when it will no longer be allowed under the current healthcare reform. I guess that's social justice? Money will be useless to those who have the most, unless they are willing to hop on a plane and make some overseas doctor wealthy. Isn't this the equivelent of shipping jobs overseas?
Yes, the difference is curable, young, and productive members of our country are being denied life saving medical treatment according to ability to pay.
Update: Steve Russell, Senior Vice President and Chief People Officer at McDonald's USA released a statement last night that says, in part:
Media reports stating that we plan to drop health care coverage for our employees are completely false...McDonald's is committed to providing competitive pay and benefits, and the strongest employment opportunities possible.
It should be noted that McDonald's lifetime caps start at $2000, the price of one ER visit.
the WSJ reporting that mcdonalds may cut its healthcare plans led to squeals about rupert murdoch and the loss of the WSJ's credibility.
when NPR says pretty much the same thing - dead silence.
I see patients on a daily basis who have little or no money getting procedures with four figure price tags. Either Medicaid pays, they have supplemental insurance, or they take a payment plan and pay what they can. In any case we see them and treat them. There are municipal and charity hospitals in every city and town in America.
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...Obama's plan is working, we'll have Single Payer sooner than I thought
