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Old 10-02-2010, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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First off nobody is being murdered.



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Originally Posted by Melvin.George
A poor person pays payroll takes,
Payroll taxes being name for income taxes, 'poor' people earn less than the lowest bracket of income taxes; so they pay no income taxes.



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... excise taxes, gasoline taxes, state sales
Everyone pays these taxes.



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... or income taxes,
Again you must have a certain minimum of income before you pay any income taxes.



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... telephone /cable /power /utility /fishing /hunting / etc. fees or other add ons and ends up, if he/she's lucky being out about half of what they earn on the front end.
Again everyone pays these.



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... A rich person sloughs off a sales tax, an income tax, a gasoline tax, various fees and hires an accountant to be sure he doesn't pay more than 20% total.
This is complete BS. Nobody is avoiding sales tax, everyone must file income taxes, everyone who uses gasoline is paying gasoline taxes, ...



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... The screwing continues...the screwing goes on.
Screwing?

Because we all pay taxes?
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Old 10-02-2010, 07:14 AM
 
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Hey, I do that all the time to my hubby. I see some hideous dress at the store, go over to see how much it costs and then tell my husband how much I saved him since I would never consider buying it. HAHA

Monkeying with numbers is fun.
why is is that you get a penny for your thoughts, but have to put your 2 cents in?

somebody is making a penny
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Texas
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A poor person pays payroll takes, excise taxes, gasoline taxes, state sales or income taxes, telephone/cable/power/utility/fishing/hunting/ etc. fees or other add ons and ends up, if he/she's lucky being out about half of what they earn on the front end.

A rich person sloughs off a sales tax, an income tax, a gasoline tax, various fees and hires an accountant to be sure he doesn't pay more than 20% total.

The screwing continues...the screwing goes on.
Total idiocy, everyone employed pay payroll taxes (FICA); those with small income pay no income tax and actually receive a welfare payment when they file a return- EIC. The rest of the taxes are paid by everyone- "telephone/cable/power/utility/fishing/hunting/ etc. fees" are paid by those who participate; if you don't go fishing you don't pay for a license. Utilities may be necessary but the cost can be controlled by the user.
Lose the car, turn down (or up) the thermostat, disconnect the cable, phone and broadband and save some cash.

Dano
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Texas
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in this country businesses and corporations, big and small, do NOT pay income taxes. they pass those costs onto the consumer on a regular basis.
By this line of reasoning, the consumer pays all of the taxes. The cost of the employees wages and employer paid taxes are added into the cost of the product and paid by the purchaser/user

Dano
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Old 10-02-2010, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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A poor person pays payroll takes, excise taxes, gasoline taxes, state sales or income taxes, telephone/cable/power/utility/fishing/hunting/ etc. fees or other add ons and ends up, if he/she's lucky being out about half of what they earn on the front end.

A rich person sloughs off a sales tax, an income tax, a gasoline tax, various fees and hires an accountant to be sure he doesn't pay more than 20% total.

The screwing continues...the screwing goes on.
boy are you living on some other planet? Where are you getting these ideas?

Nita
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Old 10-02-2010, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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boy are you living on some other planet? Where are you getting these ideas?

Nita
he thinks because he is sitting home retired collecting his union retirement from working at Union Carbide (I wonder if he was one of the Bhopal supervisors), and not paying taxes, that we should tax the 'rich' more than they are taxed already...what happens when the bloody government decides that his pension needs to be taxed even more , because the reDEFINE the rich to be anyone making 50k or more...then what
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Old 10-02-2010, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Thanks, everyone, for correcting Melvin's many, many errors.

Perhaps in the future he will do some research before making such ridiculous claims.
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Old 10-02-2010, 05:04 PM
 
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Thanks, everyone, for correcting Melvin's many, many errors.

Perhaps in the future he will do some research before making such ridiculous claims.
The funny thing is, he actually belives that the rich guy with 3 cars, a yacht, 2 jet skis, a 4 wheeler pays less gas tax then the "poor" guy.
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Old 10-02-2010, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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the middleclass is shrinking because liberal policies are sending the jobs overseas
Bank of America is NOT a liberal policy supporter. They have outsourced for years, India, Phillipines, etc.

Oh well keep defending the richest 2% while they laugh all the way to the bank.
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Old 10-02-2010, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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The funny thing is, he actually belives that the rich guy with 3 cars, a yacht, 2 jet skis, a 4 wheeler pays less gas tax then the "poor" guy.
You can own a dozen cars, but since you can not drive all of them at the same time. You can only drive one car at a time. So if you commute to work, you can only commute using one car per day. ie, the same amount of gasoline as a person with one car.

Yachts tend to suck through a lot of fuel though.
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