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Considering that Christianity worships the God that created the universe, it's been around since the beginning of time.
That trumps any cutesy little web site you can come up with.
easy peasy lemon squeezy
Only if you rely on one single hearsay source and ignore all other claims.
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•According to AFROL.com:
"Archaeologists have discovered what seems to be remains of the world's earliest religious worship site in the remote Ngamiland region of Botswana. Here, our ancestors performed advanced rituals, worshiping the python some 70,000 years ago. The sensational discovery strengthens Africa's position as the cradle of modern man. ... While, up until now, scholars have largely held that man's first rituals were carried out over 40,000 years ago in Europe, it now appears that they were wrong about both the time and place. Associate Professor Sheila Coulson, from the Oslo University, however claims to have proof that modern humans started performing advanced rituals in Africa 70,000 years ago. She discovered mankind's oldest known ritual in Botswana.'
Jews don't celebrate Christmas!! I didn't say one religion was older.
Yeah, you did.
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The Roman Empire had pagan ways. Today we call them secular.
Pagan religions are not secular. Do you know what secular means?
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The practice of putting up special decorations at Christmas has a long history. From pre-Christian times, people in the Roman Empire brought branches from evergreen plants indoors in the winter. Decorating withgreenery was also part of Jewish tradition : "Now on the first day you shall take for yourselves the foliage of beautiful trees, palm branches and boughs of leafy trees and willows of the brook, and you shall rejoice before the LORD your God for seven days. " (Leviticus 23:40)
And the Jews had nothing to do with the Roman Feast of Saturnalia, or any other European PRE-CHRISTIAN winter solstice celebrations.
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I would think Christians would follow the Jews ,more than the Pagans.
You would think...how about picking up a history book? Most Western European and American Christmas traditions are either PRE-CHRISTIAN Celtic or Germanic in origin.
"Christmas" didn't even get invented (yes, invented) until the 300's AD when the Bishop of Rome tried to commandeer the ongoing Pagan stuff. Not being able to get the ornery Romans and Romanized barbarians to give up their partying ways, he just decided to start calling it Christmas and Christianized it.
Just like Easter, or why do you think the date of Easter has to do with the phases of the Moon?
Wow, look at all those pagan-type religious-y things that happened way before Abraham was born, and I got bored way before I reached the point where your precious Jewish zombie god's mysticism starts.
Something to think about: secularism has been proven to promote stingyness. If we were to become as secular as Europe America would no longer be the most generous country in the world. There would be less social programs to help the poor and downtrodden, less charity for those in need.
Are Secularists Scrooges? (http://www.bigquestionsonline.com/columns/susan-jacoby/good-for-goodness-sake - broken link)
Arthur C. Brooks, in a 2003 Policy Review essay on faith and charitable giving, connects liberal secular support for government programs with personal stinginess. Yet Brooks acknowledges that religious involvement, not political ideology, plays the dominant role. Religious liberals are 19 percentage points more likely to give than secular liberals, and religious conservatives 28 percent more likely than secular conservatives.
Wow, look at all those pagan-type religious-y things that happened way before Abraham was born, and I got bored way before I reached the point where your precious Jewish zombie god's mysticism starts.
Abraham worshiped the God that created the universe. Since the time of Adam and Eve, he has been worshiped. Technically speaking, you are correct...Judaism started with Abraham. However, God was worshiped long long long before any other religion.
I dispute the date that you have for the books being written. What is your reasoning for placing the Torah at 1250 BC? Traditionally, Moses was said to have written the Torah long before that.
Abraham worshiped the God that created the universe. Since the time of Adam and Eve, he has been worshiped. Technically speaking, you are correct...Judaism started with Abraham. However, God was worshiped long long long before any other religion.
I dispute the date that you have for the books being written. What is your reasoning for placing the Torah at 1250 BC? Traditionally, Moses was said to have written the Torah long before that.
And any other religion with a creation myth can make precisely the same claim, and many of them have texts and cultures that predate Abraham.
Don't Muslims claim that Adam and Eve were Muslim?
You're going to have to get in line if you want to make up your own history.
Other religions are way ahead of you.
We are talking about the origins of Christmas. I'm just denying that Christan's followed pagan ways. Pagans were just in society, the church was trying to bond and both sides used traditions. The Roman Catholics had many pagan ways. Kind of like today,Christians being in a secular society. I wasn't claiming Christianity to be the oldest religion.
If you follow the origins of Christmas they come from all over the world. Pagans have tried to lay some claim, that Christians followed them.
When settlers first came to America most didn't even celebrate Christmas. They had a hard time figuring out how to celebrate Christmas with keeping Christ as the center.
Abraham worshiped the God that created the universe. Since the time of Adam and Eve, he has been worshiped. Technically speaking, you are correct...Judaism started with Abraham. However, God was worshiped long long long before any other religion.
I dispute the date that you have for the books being written. What is your reasoning for placing the Torah at 1250 BC? Traditionally, Moses was said to have written the Torah long before that.
Here's the problem: Prove Adam and Eve existed, without using the Bible as a reference.
Every religion has its creation story, the Judaic religions are not alone in that.
Therefore, it's foolhardy to claim that the Judaic religions are the oldest religions in the world simply because Adam and Eve worshipped them.
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