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Old 12-17-2010, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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I'm a devout Christian. I don't celebrate Christmas, nor do I care whether someone says "Happy Holidays" or "Merry Christmas." As a Christ follower, there are far more important things to be outraged about. How about:

1) The fact that EVERY DAY, hundreds of people around the world die without knowing Jesus Christ. Regardless of your beliefs on hell, this means that these people will be forever separated from God's love. That is a true tragedy.

2) Christians in the Middle East, India and Pakistan are being executed for their faith. A woman in Pakistan was sentenced to death for professing Christianity. In India, churches are being burned, Christians are being murdered and believers are being forcibly "converted" to their old religions.

3) The Karen people of Burma, many of whom are Christian, are being slaughtered by the military junta in that country.

4) Thousands of people in Africa and South Asia are STARVING TO DEATH because of extreme poverty. Dictators starve their own people while riding around in limousines.

This is just a small sampling of the persecutions and atrocities happening to Christians and nonbelievers around the world. All of these tragedies go on, and yet people are so worked up over freakin' Trader Joe's saying "Happy Holidays." Are you serious?!?! Do you think Jesus would approve of this?

 
Old 12-17-2010, 10:07 PM
 
Location: California
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This is just a small sampling of the persecutions and atrocities happening to Christians and nonbelievers around the world. All of these tragedies go on, and yet people are so worked up over freakin' Trader Joe's saying "Happy Holidays." Are you serious?!?! Do you think Jesus would approve of this?
I think some do.
 
Old 12-17-2010, 10:07 PM
 
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The reason for the season is Christ, like it or not.
In a theocratic philosophy, perhaps, but America is not a theocracy. Christmas is not the 3 month entitlement it's been made out to be in commercialized spectacles. Christians do not own the calendar, or the month of December, or any such nonsense. They have no right to demand anything of the public at large beyond the respect of being able to live out their religion on their own dime.

The day an obnoxious herd of wiccans decide to start tacking pentagrams on your front door, then you'll have my defense. Thing is wiccans, and many other religious people, do not use the pretense of religion to get in peoples faces the way faux christians who cannot be bothered to practice what it is they are preaching do. Just how many practicing Satanists are sitting in the pews? Let's do a head count, shall we?
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Nobody is asking any business to be forced to do anything. The OP was making a commentary on how Christmas-related decor was lacking in the Trader Joe's.
Sure they are. They're going to throw conniption fits over a Christmas tree and turn what is a singular day, a religious holiday to be observed by individuals, into a political/ commercialized/ faux religious turf war. I'm reminded of King Solomon. The one willing to see the baby cut in half to satisfy her desire to covet was never the true mother.

I think atheists might actually be doing Christianity a huge favor ridding itself of too much darnel choking out the wheat entirely.
 
Old 12-17-2010, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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I'm a devout Christian. I don't celebrate Christmas, nor do I care whether someone says "Happy Holidays" or "Merry Christmas." As a Christ follower, there are far more important things to be outraged about. How about:

1) The fact that EVERY DAY, hundreds of people around the world die without knowing Jesus Christ. Regardless of your beliefs on hell, this means that these people will be forever separated from God's love. That is a true tragedy.

2) Christians in the Middle East, India and Pakistan are being executed for their faith. A woman in Pakistan was sentenced to death for professing Christianity. In India, churches are being burned, Christians are being murdered and believers are being forcibly "converted" to their old religions.

3) The Karen people of Burma, many of whom are Christian, are being slaughtered by the military junta in that country.

4) Thousands of people in Africa and South Asia are STARVING TO DEATH because of extreme poverty. Dictators starve their own people while riding around in limousines.

This is just a small sampling of the persecutions and atrocities happening to Christians and nonbelievers around the world. All of these tragedies go on, and yet people are so worked up over freakin' Trader Joe's saying "Happy Holidays." Are you serious?!?! Do you think Jesus would approve of this?
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They say that only 10% of people take a stand on a certain issue. For me, this issue is worth taking a stand for. Merry Christmas
 
Old 12-17-2010, 10:19 PM
 
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But do you think businesses should do that to keep Christians happy even if they don't really want to? Please explain why. I think businesses should do what they like holiday-wise and everyone, even Christians, should accept it without complaint or fake outrage while graciously receiving whatever decor and pleasantries are offered.
I agree, and nobody should be compelled to display or not display. Shut up and leave it alone is most of what I'm saying. I wouldn't blame businesses refraining from any holiday displays if it's going to bring out the worst in people. Most of that is coming from extremes on either side in need of an escort out the store. The reason for my season in my religion has nothing to do with material trappings, and everything to do with gratitude.
 
Old 12-17-2010, 10:31 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I find that absurb, and full of sensetivity. Come on now it is Christams, the jolliest time of the year!
 
Old 12-17-2010, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Poinsettias are not specific to Christmas.

Wreaths and trees also belong to the pagans.

The only thing in your argument that is valid is the advent calendars. But that is not at all the same as decorating your store for Christmas and playing Christmas songs over the PA system.
In this country poinsettias, wreaths and trees are associated with Christmas.

Thankfully there are places that do not put Christmas decorations up in October...thankfully there are places that do not play cheesy Christmas songs incessantly over the PA system.

I have no problem with Christmas, celebrate it myself, but don't kid yourself...stores are not decorated because of any religious beliefs, they are decorated to make you spend more money.
 
Old 12-17-2010, 11:05 PM
 
Location: California
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I would like to see a store put up a metal pole. And if you try to leave without buying something you have to listen to the clerks tell you what they really think of you and then wrestle the manager.
 
Old 12-17-2010, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Poinsettias are not specific to Christmas.

Wreaths and trees also belong to the pagans.

The only thing in your argument that is valid is the advent calendars. But that is not at all the same as decorating your store for Christmas and playing Christmas songs over the PA system.
Got news for ya hun, The entire celebration of Christmas by Christians is nothing but another element Christianity has stolen from Pagans
 
Old 12-17-2010, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Exactly....the pagans celebrated it loooooong before the christians commandeered the day, cuz the pagans werent paying attention to what the christians were trying to foist on them.
Wasnt Jesus born in April?
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