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Old 12-22-2010, 05:50 PM
 
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Look, I'll be durned if I'll give up on our ability to destroy all life on planet earth 14 times over to only be able to destroy life on earth only 9 times over. Can't trust those commies, if we reduce ours by 10% and they reduce theirs by 10% that means they still have a numerical advantage and that is just treason!

(cue homers voice) DOH
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:53 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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This treaty is folly. This treaty is the best thing for enemies bent on the downfall of America.

All you enough nuke criers do not realize the gravity of the treaty. It encompasses far more than warhead count. It's not a matter of my nukes can beat your nukes.

Read the treaty and realize the true damage this treaty has wrought.
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Who here wants to bet that we'll all be speaking Russian in our lifetimes?

Anyone?

Didn't think so
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:56 PM
 
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Who here wants to bet that we'll all be speaking Russian in our lifetimes?

Anyone?

Didn't think so
Da tovarich
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Since TheWon signed that treaty on April 8, 2010, according to the White House blog and we all know who runs that one, don't we, why wasn't this one debated in Congress before the Lame Duck session? Somehow I believe that free debate in the Senate is needed before they just ok it and let it slide. Why has so much of this kind of importance been put off till now? It seems to me that something of this nature has to have some more inspection than has been done.

The Congress has to make some kind of attempt to get some of the legislative powers of our government back in its hands.
It's been eight months. What do you think this treaty has been doing during that time? Just lying around waiting?

It's been to Committee and the members of the Senate have had 8 whole months to read it, study it, ask questions, have their staff analyze it and decide how they'll vote. To suddenly, now, at the end of the game claim they need more time isn't an indictment of the Senate leadership who put it on the calender; it's an indictment of laziness against those who haven't considered it.

But, they have considered it. All this is about is just what Mitch McConnell promised: Another tool in their weapons bag to keep Barack Obama from being re-elected.

Thank goodness they failed.
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:59 PM
 
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lmao I think Russia is more concerned about reviving their econmy than nuking us!
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Old 12-22-2010, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This treaty is folly. This treaty is the best thing for enemies bent on the downfall of America.

All you enough nuke criers do not realize the gravity of the treaty. It encompasses far more than warhead count. It's not a matter of my nukes can beat your nukes.

Read the treaty and realize the true damage this treaty has wrought.
I have read it.

What exactly is it in the treaty which you object to?
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Da tovarich
kak dela?
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:04 PM
 
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This treaty is folly. This treaty is the best thing for enemies bent on the downfall of America.

All you enough nuke criers do not realize the gravity of the treaty. It encompasses far more than warhead count. It's not a matter of my nukes can beat your nukes.

Read the treaty and realize the true damage this treaty has wrought.

The only objection I've seen thus far was the opening of our nuclear weapons to inspections. People are going banana's over this.

Funny that what American's will not tolerate they demand Iran to do or threaten to attack them.

Feel free to add your rationalizations...
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:04 PM
 
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How does it compromise the security of the nation? Are 3000 nukes not enough to destroy the world? Would you rather we went back to the arms race and mutual assured destruction (MAD)?
The better questions would be:

Why not take the time to debate the merits and shortcomings of this treaty on the Senate floor in January with the new Congress?

Why negotiate from a position of weakness rather than one of strength?

Why was this treaty necessary at this time?

Why negotiate a nuclear arms treaty with a nation who is actively assisting Iran in going nuclear?

Why negotiate a nuclear arms treaty with a nation who is actively selling arms to the dictator Hugo Chavez?

Why negotiate a treaty with a nation who invaded one of our allies, Georgia, in recent years?
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