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Old 02-02-2011, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Ah, no wrong again the overwhelming majority of fundamentalists are a threat to the west. I think you are trying to say the overwhelming number of Muslims are not a threat to the west. So what? There are enough jihadists to threaten the west.
No, I meant that even most Muslim fundamentalists are not al-Qaeda style suicidal nihilists and do not threaten the west.
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:20 AM
 
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Glenn Beck on the radio sometime ago was entertaining. I was listening to him on Fox and he's a complete idiot.
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEZrO0vmkGQ
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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Also, it is not for lack of trying. They are trying to get their hands on a nuclear weapon, when they do will you change your tune?
Perhaps, although it is still the case that our historical and current policy of belligerent interference makes such an outcome more likely, not less likely.
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I think you are missing the mark here. Beck is trying to say that these riots are happening because MB is trying to create a caliphate from west Africa ti Indonesia, like it was some kind of global conspiracy. Well, the MB didn't start these riots. They didn't even know how to react when they started, so where is Beck getting these ideas? The answer is simple: HE MAKES THEM UP. He draws boxes on his black board, one box for MB ang another for the rioters, and he connects them to establish a link between the rioters and the MB, but there is no link. There is no conspiracy. He made it up to sell his show.
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Well he's not,the MB has as it's stated goal a global caliphate. The MB is part of this uprising. El Baradei is alread talking of a coaliiton government with the MB. I am no fan of Beck but what he is saying isn't even controversial.

I think you are the one making things up. You puport to claim that the MB didn't know how to react when the riots started. Please document where this comes form.
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Perhaps, although it is still the case that our historical and current policy of belligerent interference makes such an outcome more likely, not less likely.

Again as I pointed out earlier the US is in a no win situation. if we try to force regime change in a country we are interfering in their internal politics, if we do nothing we work with the government of a country we are proping it up.

Most us critics are not accusing the US of beligerent interference in Egypt, just the opposite.
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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No, I meant that even most Muslim fundamentalists are not al-Qaeda style suicidal nihilists and do not threaten the west.

Well then, you are simply wrong.


Islamic fundamentalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Read up.
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Again as I pointed out earlier the US is in a no win situation. if we try to force regime change in a country we are interfering in their internal politics, if we do nothing we work with the government of a country we are proping it up.

Most us critics are not accusing the US of beligerent interference in Egypt, just the opposite.
Threatening to cut off aid to the Egyptian military if it fired on the demonstrators would be an example of entirely benign non-interference that would still get results. Happily, that isn't necessary since the military is tilting toward the demonstrators on their own.
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Well he's not,the MB has as it's stated goal a global caliphate. The MB is part of this uprising. El Baradei is alread talking of a coaliiton government with the MB. I am no fan of Beck but what he is saying isn't even controversial.

I think you are the one making things up. You puport to claim that the MB didn't know how to react when the riots started. Please document where this comes form.
Again, Beck says these riots are a part of an attempt of MB to create a global capliphate, and that is simply not true, because the riots took MB by a complete surprise. When they started MB tried to figure out how to benefit from them, but they still don't know. That is a fact, and if you didn't know it, then you have not been following the story. Read the news, I am not here to spoon-feed you every bit of information you have failed to catch or comprehend. If someone has to prove something, it is you who needs to prove that MB organized the riots.
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Old 02-02-2011, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Threatening to cut off aid to the Egyptian military if it fired on the demonstrators would be an example of entirely benign non-interference that would still get results. Happily, that isn't necessary since the military is tilting toward the demonstrators on their own.

Military aid has already been cut off.
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