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Old 02-11-2011, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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And we gave billions in foreign aid...did we follow up to see that it actually went to the people ?
Yes, we have indeed given Egypt lots of foreign aid. Carter, being unable to broker a peace agreement between Israel and Egypt, bought one with taxpayer dollars instead, and the Democrat controlled Senate naturally gave their consent in 1979. And the US taxpayer has been paying ever since.

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And we champion human rights issues all over the world..did we follow up with what went on in Egypt ?

Yeah..we kep "diplomatic" relations with Egypt and we also paid plenty $$$ to keep our interests safe over there.

I didn't mean my post to say we put Mubarak in office but that we propped up his regime over the years with plenty of money and turned our eye to the corruptness and human rights issues.
The blame for that falls squarely on the liberal freaks in power at the time.
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Tallahassee
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Glitch,
Yes, to some on these threads it IS a good thing. That's because the old dictator was a friend of the US and the new one wouldn't be.

Why do they consider that good? Because the more hostile governments that are in the area, according to this view, the more likely the US will be weakened and pushed out of the area.

This outlook is of course based on the opinion that the US has no vital interests there that need to be defended .
What new dictator?

Certainly the protestors in Egypt consider it to be very GOOD that Mubarak finally stepped down!

The idea that there are "those of us" out here who think it's good for "more hostile governments in the area" to be in control is total glenn beck BS!
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Yes, we have indeed given Egypt lots of foreign aid. Carter, being unable to broker a peace agreement between Israel and Egypt, bought one with taxpayer dollars instead, and the Democrat controlled Senate naturally gave their consent in 1979. And the US taxpayer has been paying ever since.

The blame for that falls squarely on the liberal freaks in power at the time.
A tradition that continued through Reagan and all Presidents that followed. Something you hate? And you still want status quo, US influence in Egyptian (and regional) politics.
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Egypt is a foreign country, belonging to its people. They get to choose, regardless of the consequences to us. We simply ought to be prepared for the worst and refrain from poking our nose into their affairs.
To the ego maniacal, that's not an acceptable course of action.
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Nope, won't happen. Iraq will see increasing stability.

Ken
More than which period in time over last four decades?
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Old 02-11-2011, 09:57 AM
 
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Oh my!

See what a large group of like minded people can do against power and oppression......


Kinda like a UNION!


Go Egypt!
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Old 02-11-2011, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Glitch,
Yes, to some on these threads it IS a good thing. That's because the old dictator was a friend of the US and the new one wouldn't be.

Why do they consider that good? Because the more hostile governments that are in the area, according to this view, the more likely the US will be weakened and pushed out of the area.

This outlook is of course based on the opinion that the US has no vital interests there that need to be defended .
Ah, now that I can believe. "Anything and everything to harm the US" is the liberal freak motto. So it is not surprising they would support an anti-US dictatorship.
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Old 02-11-2011, 10:04 AM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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I am so happy for Egypt right now they are going to show the world what they can do and be an example for the entire region.

This is like what happened in Europe when the wall fell.

I hope this is beneficial to the entire region.

This is the Egypt the world should know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbap-...eature=related
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Old 02-11-2011, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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A tradition that continued through Reagan and all Presidents that followed. Something you hate? And you still want status quo, US influence in Egyptian (and regional) politics.
"A tradition?" ROFL! Try "TREATY!" You might also want to read about treaties under Article VI of the US Constitution. Once the Senate gives their consent, and the President ratifies the treaty, it becomes part of the Supreme Law of the Land.
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Old 02-11-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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"A tradition?" ROFL! Try "TREATY!" You might also want to read about treaties under Article VI of the US Constitution. Once the Senate gives their consent, and the President ratifies the treaty, it becomes part of the Supreme Law of the Land.
Treaties give countries authority to meddle in their internal affairs? What happens when the government changes? Doesn't that treaty go up in smoke?
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