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Old 02-21-2011, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Here
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No, they get minial wages, crappy if any retirement, and no say in any decissions pertaining to their work or students. They can also get the boot at any time with no reason and no legal recourse. Sorry you keep that for yourself.
Nothing like talking about something you know nothing about.
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Old 02-21-2011, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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No, they get minial wages, crappy if any retirement, and no say in any decissions pertaining to their work or students. They can also get the boot at any time with no reason and no legal recourse. Sorry you keep that for yourself.
So, assuming this to be true (which I'm not), you're okay with overpaying public sector employees and giving them lavish health and retirement benefits in comparison to their private sector counterparts?

Should public sector employees be more highly compensated both in pay and benefits than what the private market dictates for the same position? Is that fair to the taxpayers? Should a doctor working in the VA or the county hospital get paid double that of a doctor in private practice? What about an accountant working for the federal government? Should he/she get thousands more per year in pay and benefits than one in the private sector?
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Tower of Heaven
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So, assuming this to be true (which I'm not), you're okay with overpaying public sector employees and giving them lavish health and retirement benefits in comparison to their private sector counterparts?

Should public sector employees be more highly compensated both in pay and benefits than what the private market dictates for the same position? Is that fair to the taxpayers? Should a doctor working in the VA or the county hospital get paid double that of a doctor in private practice? What about an accountant working for the federal government? Should he/she get thousands more per year in pay and benefits than one in the private sector?
These perks must end !
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:16 AM
 
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MADISON, Wis. — Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker took a hard line Monday against any compromise to break the stalemate over union bargaining rights here — a sign of just how dug in both sides are ahead of a lopsided legislative session Tuesday that will be marked by the continued absence of all Democratic lawmakers.
Protesters flooded the Capitol for the eighth day Monday to mark their opposition to Walker’s call to strip collective bargaining rights from public-sector unions to close the state’s budget gap, a fight that has drawn the attention of activists from the left and the right.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker: No compromise on union rights - Meredith Shiner - POLITICO.com
that is what the governor ran on. the people voted and now they expect him to deliver!
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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that is what the governor ran on. the people voted and now they expect him to deliver!
Here is his Campaign web site, I have been looking and looking trying to find where gutting the Unions collective bargaining power was anywhere in his platform. Obviously you know, so can you you help me locate it?

Scott Walker for Wisconsin Governor
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:48 AM
 
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He wasn't elected to remove the Collective Bargaining Rights from Unions.

he was elected to reform education, a task which is impossible while the unions run the show
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Old 02-22-2011, 05:59 AM
 
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What about the State Troopers??


if there is one thing most states and the entire country need, it's less police. i see officers regularly busting people for not coming to a complete stop down the road. it's ridiculous. i say get rid of the dea, allocate some of those cops to solving murder, rape, robbery, theft, violence etc. ie the real purpose of the police. the rest can get real jobs. sorry for going off topic
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Old 02-22-2011, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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he was elected to reform education, a task which is impossible while the unions run the show
His attack on the Unions is familiar, he failed before.

http://www.wtaq.com/news/articles/20...ity-guards-re/

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Old 02-22-2011, 06:03 AM
 
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There is nothing on his web site about that plan, and you may want review the poll above. #16 But I doubt you will.
he campaigned school choice, pay for performance, getting rid of poor teachers etc. this is what wisconsin voters elected him for.

want to hazzard a guess who stands in the way of these plans?
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Old 02-22-2011, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I suppose this is a predictable response from the worshippers of the private sector when the managers achieve the goal of imposing third world conditions on their employees. Now these employees that were always getting better wages than the government employed teachers want the teachers to join them in the poor wage and benefit conditions that now prevail in the private sector. There is plenty of money to support the teachers but it cannot be supplied by regressive property taxes. The state needs a high deductable dedicated income tax to pay for the education system.

The best thing that could happen to Wisconsin is for this arrogant fool to resign as governor so the adults could settle the dispute.
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