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Who cares if it's on his website? He ran on that campaign promise. Just for your information, there is a budget crisis going on in this country, but I doubt you care about that. Just spend spend spend, that's what the libs and neocons do.
Yes, you're right. The voters were all supposed to infer from his website that he was out to bust the union. M, hm.
Give me a break. If the teachers want raises above and beyond the Consumer Price Index, they are free to bring it up as a referendum item to be voted on by those who pay their salaries... the taxpayers. Please, explain why this is a bad thing? Nobody in this thread seems to want to address that.
When I worked for a Company and felt I deserved a raise, I went to my boss, who knew me, knew my work and was generally able to decide yea or nay. I didn't have to go to some election process to ask people who knew nothing about me or my work. Can a teacher go to the school Principal for such a thing? No. Can a teacher go to the school board to make such a request? No. So, you are suggesting the teacher first get all other teachers to get a referendum together for inclusion on the next election process to get a vote on it? Yep, that pretty fair.
When I worked for a Company and felt I deserved a raise, I went to my boss, who knew me, knew my work and was generally able to decide yea or nay. I didn't have to go to some election process to ask people who knew nothing about me or my work. Can a teacher go to the school Principal for such a thing? No. Can a teacher go to the school board to make such a request? No. So, you are suggesting the teacher first get all other teachers to get a referendum together for inclusion on the next election process to get a vote on it? Yep, that pretty fair.
Wow, okay. The whole reason teachers aren't allowed to receive merit based pay increases is because of the unions. They won't allow teachers to negotiate their own raises, so you are going to try to turn this around and deflect the blame when when it's a union process that creates the problem in the first place? Oy. All the more reason to do away with the union. Reward everyone exactly the same regardless of outcome.
Wow, okay. The whole reason teachers aren't allowed to receive merit based pay increases is because of the unions. They won't allow teachers to negotiate their own raises, so you are going to try to turn this around and deflect the blame when when it's a union process that creates the problem in the first place? Oy. All the more reason to do away with the union. Reward everyone exactly the same regardless of outcome.
So if the union was gone the teachers would be able to go to the principle or school board and ask for a raise then? Oh I do not think that is how it would work, if that were true there never would have been a union in the first place
Casper
When I worked for a Company and felt I deserved a raise, I went to my boss, who knew me, knew my work and was generally able to decide yea or nay. I didn't have to go to some election process to ask people who knew nothing about me or my work. Can a teacher go to the school Principal for such a thing? No. Can a teacher go to the school board to make such a request? No. So, you are suggesting the teacher first get all other teachers to get a referendum together for inclusion on the next election process to get a vote on it? Yep, that pretty fair.
Well...your salary wasn't paid by the taxpayers, was it?
So if the union was gone the teachers would be able to go to the principle or school board and ask for a raise then? Oh I do not think that is how it would work, if that were true there never would have been a union in the first place
Casper
Yeah, you're right. Teachers in private schools, charter schools, and right to work states never get raises.
Give me a break. If the teachers want raises above and beyond the Consumer Price Index, they are free to bring it up as a referendum item to be voted on by those who pay their salaries... the taxpayers. Please, explain why this is a bad thing? Nobody in this thread seems to want to address that.
Why are you attempting to deflect what the real issue is??..this governor wants to score points with the Republican party by destroying the teacher's union. His first basis for his attack on the union was the teachers were not willing to negotiate the financials and benefits.
When the union agreed to his demands, which if it were the real issue there would be no further difficulties, the gov of Wisconsin demand that the teachers lose collective bargaining!!
The only reason collective bargaining would be stripped is to isolate and destroy one at a time any member of the teacher's union that stands up for or demands that the union be bargained with honestly and with respect.
No need to give you a break, if you are jealous because they are in a better position in life than you, than become a teacher!!
Yeah, you're right. Teachers in private schools, charter schools, and right to work states never get raises.
No, they get minial wages, crappy if any retirement, and no say in any decissions pertaining to their work or students. They can also get the boot at any time with no reason and no legal recourse. Sorry you keep that for yourself.
•In 2007�08, the average annual base salary of regular full-time public school teachers ($49,600) was higher than the average annual base salary of regular full-time private school teachers ($36,300).
•About 63 percent of public and 37 percent of private schools employed staff with academic specialist or coaching assignments. A higher percentage of public elementary schools had staff with academic specialist or coaching assignments (73 percent) compared to private elementary (37 percent), public secondary (42 percent), and combined public schools (46 percent).
Why are you attempting to deflect what the real issue is??..this governor wants to score points with the Republican party by destroying the teacher's union. His first basis for his attack on the union was the teachers were not willing to negotiate the financials and benefits.
When the union agreed to his demands, which if it were the real issue there would be no further difficulties, the gov of Wisconsin demand that the teachers lose collective bargaining!!
The only reason collective bargaining would be stripped is to isolate and destroy one at a time any member of the teacher's union that stands up for or demands that the union be bargained with honestly and with respect.
No need to give you a break, if you are jealous because they are in a better position in life than you, than become a teacher!!
I haven't deflected a thing. When the unions saw that the governor was not going to back down, they agreed to pay concessions towards funding their own retirement and health care benefits. That was necessary to help the immediate budget deficit. The whole collective bargaining thing is to keep them accountable to the taxpayers. He isn't saying that they cannot get raises above and beyond the CPI, just that it would have to be voted on by the taxpayers. Doesn't sound unfair to me. He's also giving teachers the right to opt out of being forced to pay union dues. Again, not a horrible ting. And lastly, he's requiring that if the teachers (not the union boss mobsters) choose to continue to stay unionized every year, they will have the opportunity to vote to decide that annually. Again, NOT A BAD THING. This give teachers more power to decide rather than the unions forcibly extracting dues and making decisions for them.
And please, regarding your last statement, there is absolutely no need for personal attacks. I'm a highly compensated medical provider and absolutely not jealous of anyone in the teaching profession so don't go there.
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They won't allow teachers to negotiate their own raises, so you are going to try to turn this around and deflect the blame when when it's a union process that creates the problem in the first place? Oy. All the more reason to do away with the union. Reward everyone exactly the same regardless of outcome.
