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Old 02-22-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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Actually post one hundred answers your question. For years people considered public service to be beneath them, they considered public servants to be intellectually less able than themselves and laughed at us because we allowed "others" to negotiate for us, be our mouthpiece, and demand to be treated lawfully and with respect in the workplace.

The private sector worker depended upon the grace and good favor of his employer and as many on this board proudly proclaimed, you chose to represent yourself in everything from retirement to the amount of your raise if any.

We in the public sector realized we would be best represented by individuals trained in retirement professions, labor relations, mediators, etc.

Now that we have benefits that rival and sometimes surpass the private sector, the class jealousy comes out. I'm not going backward economically for you or any other private sector worker.
As a citizen who pays taxes for the public sector, I refuse to pay taxes to fund exhorbiant costs for HC and Pensions, hence I will elect soemone who will represent my views and take apart the union in which then we will be able to better pay market value
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:34 AM
 
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Add to that that any kid who has even a minor discipline problem is asked to leave a private school and the parents can't do a thing about it. They skim the cream off the top and leave the rest for the public schools.

you would think that would send a signal to educators both public and private that the education they're trying to force feed all kids isn't working. perhaps it's time for a new model. this would be impossible in public education because they only know the one size fits all approach. apologies for going off topic again.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:36 AM
 
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Ideas are great. We live in a real world, however.

yup, they have real world examples of low cost private educating some of the poorest kids in the poorest nations.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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LOL @ folks trying to explain away how private schools consistently outperform public schools.
Not "trying to explain". That would be ARE explaining. Just because you don't like the explanations doesn't make them wrong.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Next, the libs will find ways of explaining away performance of homeschooling. Though, they seem happy as a clam referring to them as dumb backward rednecks.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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you would think that would send a signal to educators both public and private that the education they're trying to force feed all kids isn't working. perhaps it's time for a new model. this would be impossible in public education because they only know the one size fits all approach. apologies for going off topic again.
The dictator in Turkenistan had a head start on that idea. He assumed it would work wonderfully in his favor.

But then, I'm sure likes of Jefferson weren't exactly the kind of people he would like to model his society after.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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So a Down Syndrome kid is the fault of the education system? Kids from extreme poverty, living in homeless shelters, can't speak English, this is all created by the ed system? As they say in Minnesota. . . . interesting approach.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c57DXtbbIY
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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LOL @ folks trying to explain away how private schools consistently outperform public schools.
Sometimes people can only laugh at facts and realities they can't understand.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Sometimes people can only laugh at facts and realities they can't understand.
^ this
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Does anyone here actually believe this fracas is about the budget, and not about ideology?
Not anyone with common sense and an ounce of honesty.
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