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Old 02-21-2011, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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I did. Nothing, zip, zilch, Nada, zero, came up on google.

If asking you to back up your erroneous claims with data is "bad mouthing", I must have hit a nerve with you.

When I drive "over there" what am I supposed to do?

We all have a lot in stake about what happens in this WI vote!
Try again... He was elected and ran on cutting educational budgets. But like you really tried in the first place. Big changes. BIG changes. And if you think the teacher's union voted for him you have another thing coming. They opposed him from the start because he wasn't a tax and spend liberal or neocon (liberal light).

Governor-elect promises big changes for state schools
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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He spent more money than the Dems before him?
He added to the deficit.
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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He spent more money than the Dems before him?
In six short weeks, Walker turned a proposed budget surplus into a deficit.
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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In six short weeks, Walker turned a proposed budget surplus into a deficit.
By spending more, right?
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:44 PM
 
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If a teacher doesn't want to be part of a union, he/she should be allowed to opt out.

Walker believes in freedom.
Absolutely! Time to release the chains!
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Ahh yes, its just removing of the vast majority of the Collective Bargaining Rights. Lets not fool each other, this isn't about the other concessions, this is about the Collective Bargaining Rights issue, which is something Walker did not campaign on.
Oh I know full well that this is ALL about the collective bargaining rights from the union's point of view. The union mobsters stand to lose the ability to forcibly extract dues from teachers who don't wish to pay them.

And if he didn't campaign on it, then WHY was the AFT-Wisconsin Union circulating fliers stating that he planned to "curb the union's power to negotiate"?????????????? Answer that, please.
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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By spending more, right?
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The Badger State was actually in pretty good shape. It was supposed to end this budget cycle with about $120 million in the bank. Instead, it's facing a deficit. Why? I'll let the state's official fiscal scorekeeper explain (pdf):

More than half of the lower estimate ($117.2 million) is due to the impact of Special Session Senate Bill 2 (health savings accounts), Assembly Bill 3 (tax deductions/credits for relocated businesses), and Assembly Bill 7 (tax exclusion for new employees).

In English: The governor called a special session of the legislature and signed two business tax breaks and a conservative health-care policy experiment that lowers overall tax revenues (among other things). The new legislation was not offset, and it helped turn a surplus into a deficit [see update at end of post]. As Brian Beutler writes, "public workers are being asked to pick up the tab for this agenda."
Ezra Klein - Unions aren't to blame for Wisconsin's budget
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Try again... He was elected and ran on cutting educational budgets. But like you really tried in the first place. Big changes. BIG changes. And if you think the teacher's union voted for him you have another thing coming. They opposed him from the start because he wasn't a tax and spend liberal or neocon (liberal light).

Governor-elect promises big changes for state schools
Cutting the education budget, and concessions from the Union aren't the issue. Collective Bargaining Rights is the issue, that appears no where in that article.
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Who cares if it's on his website? He ran on that campaign promise. Just for your information, there is a budget crisis going on in this country, but I doubt you care about that. Just spend spend spend, that's what the libs and neocons do.
His campaign is on his web site. He describes his positions in some detail, including the budget issue. Yes he indicated their has to be concessions and hard choices made, but nowhere does he even hint that he wanted to take away the collective bargaining power of the Unions. He knew, correctly, he would never be elected in Wisc, if he had disclosed that as his objective.
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Shhh....don't call it "forced extraction of dues". Call it "paying your fair share to be a part of this great collective".
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