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I do not believe anyone that uses the ALL statement "All of my friends who were Repbulicans are disgusted with the Tea Party and current conservative movement and will vote Democrat in the future."
On top of that, if Reagan was your hero, you were never a conservative anyway.
FAIL
I vote Libertarian. Some day we might get a chance
I just don't know how a true conservative could vote
EITHER party these days.
Sounds crazy right?
And you have the tea party to blame.
I love this country. I love capitalism.
You do realize that America has been socialist since 1935.
Corporations and finance call themselves "capitalists" but they do not fit the definition.
Capitalist Principles
CAPITALISM - An economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are privately owned and operated for private profit.
- - - WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY
PRIVATE PROPERTY - "As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels."
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217
If you concatenate capitalism with private property, you can see the "inconvenient truth".
Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are absolutely owned by individuals and operated for their individual profit.
{Corporations are creatures of government, and not absolutely owned by an individual, hence they are not "private property" nor part of capitalism, as defined. Corporations owe their existence to government, and must pay tribute / taxes for that privilege.}
Under American law, absolute ownership of land, house, tools, production, etc, is protected as part of one's inalienable right to life, liberty and property upon which you can pursue happiness without asking permission.
However, one can surrender that right, in exchange for participation in socialism (aka "Social Security"), and cease to absolutely own. And if you do not absolutely own anything - the government has a claim upon your profit (income tax), your property (ad valorem tax) and even your transactions (sales tax).
That's why government can now "take" property without paying just compensation (as required by the 5th amendment). And this also explains the recent Supreme court ruling about eminent domain "takings" of real estate that was transferred to another private party. Under socialism, there is no private property.
You do realize that America has been socialist since 1935.
Corporations and finance call themselves "capitalists" but they do not fit the definition.
Capitalist Principles
CAPITALISM - An economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are privately owned and operated for private profit.
- - - WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY
PRIVATE PROPERTY - "As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels."
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217
If you concatenate capitalism with private property, you can see the "inconvenient truth".
Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are absolutely owned by individuals and operated for their individual profit.
{Corporations are creatures of government, and not absolutely owned by an individual, hence they are not "private property" nor part of capitalism, as defined. Corporations owe their existence to government, and must pay tribute / taxes for that privilege.}
Under American law, absolute ownership of land, house, tools, production, etc, is protected as part of one's inalienable right to life, liberty and property upon which you can pursue happiness without asking permission.
However, one can surrender that right, in exchange for participation in socialism (aka "Social Security"), and cease to absolutely own. And if you do not absolutely own anything - the government has a claim upon your profit (income tax), your property (ad valorem tax) and even your transactions (sales tax).
That's why government can now "take" property without paying just compensation (as required by the 5th amendment). And this also explains the recent Supreme court ruling about eminent domain "takings" of real estate that was transferred to another private party. Under socialism, there is no private property.
I know but I really feel that strict defintions of capitalism does not help the current situation. I don't disagree wtih you but every idea looked at in a vacum is extreme. If that makes sense.
If the gap between rich and poor is increasing and the middle class is going bye bye what do you think "the method of allocating resources" will be in the future. Do you think the poor people (majority of America) will say this is great! I love being poor while 1% of the Country is extremely rich.
Sounds crazy right? Not really. I have spent my entire life as a Conservative. Founded college republicans at my university and Ronald Reagan was my hero. I was attracted to the Republican party due to facts and honestly but this is no longer what the party is about. The conservative movement is about propaganda, lies, and over simplficition of ideas. The Tea Party is so extreme and dominating public discourse that I am no longer a Republican. I cannot find one honest fact on their website.
Providing corporate tax cuts and NOT raising taxes for people who make over $250k in the current budget crisis is absurd. The distance between the rich and poor is becoming more extreme with a shrinking middle class. There has been not one comment from Conservatives regarding the effect of employee from outsourcing overseas and the fact our manufacturing base has shrunk to nothing in this country.
From that idiot Governor in Wisconsin to the Repbulicans on Capital Hill the conservatives are running this country into the ground. Nothing the tea party or conservatives advocate will increase employment or help American jobs. What the tea party has done is alienate the Repbulican base and energize the liberals to a point that a massize backlash will occur. The current Republican policy is to protect the wealthy and screw everyone else in American.
All of my friends who were Repbulicans are disgusted with the Tea Party and current conservative movement and will vote Democrat in the future. Come 2011 the House and Senate will be Democrat. The President will be Obama.
And you have the tea party to blame.
I love this country. I love capitalism. The American public will not allow the tea party and Republicans to destroy the opportunity and success that is the United States.
Instead of a blanket statement like the ones you made here, why don't you take what is stated on the tea party web site and tell us what is not the truth? 1 other question I have for you; Have you ever went to a tea party gathering? Or are you being lead around by the looney left media on your opinion of the tea party?
Another leftwing loon pretending to be a conservative. No self-proclaimed conservative would EVER vote for dems, none. Troll thread for the C-D circle jerkers.
We live in a brave time my friends, change IS going to happen, either for the best or the worse... I am personally sooooo tired of these left vs. right arguments. Have none of you realized that you are choosing the left or right path into the slaughterhouse?
The true fight is up vs. down. The ruling class has us under their thumbs and they are only going to apply more pressure. It is time for smaller government, more human rights, and the right to choose.
This federal government (feral government) was created to serve us, to serve the states. They no longer do this, they rule over every aspect of our lives... the "patriot act" was just extended... this gives the government permission to spy on you, to tap your phones.
At least we can agree on one thing, the government is out of control, but guess what, there are more of us than them.
This is indeed a brave period in human history, and the strong will soon be separated from the weak.
1. What passes for the Tea Party these day's isn't the original Tea Party at all.
At first, it was a true grass roots movement which stood for conservative principles, but their platform was ill-defined and poorly led. They had no unified structure or leadership.
Taking advantage of those weaknesses, the extremist Neo-Conservatives who have run the GOP since Ronald Reagan, swooped in and stole not only the name, but the movement itself by creating Neo-Tea Party groups such as the Tea Party Express. Tapping the deep pockets of their corporate sponsor's and putting up pliable front men like Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin, they had the resources and organization to quickly push the real Tea Party agenda out of the way and substitute their own, which is nothing more than the same old anti-union, pro-corporate agenda repackaged.
2. Just switching to the Democrat's won't necessarily change anything. You'll have to be selective in which Democrats you support because the Neo-Conservatives also have control of a good bit of that party too. So much so that they've run candidates on both tickets since at least 1988. The Democratic facist's don't call themselves Neo-Con's, but their policies are exactly the same when in office. For lack of a better term, these people are Clintonites.
Do your research. Look at where those Democratic candidates come from and from whom they gain their financial support. Track their past activities and be alert for memberships in think tanks, influence peddling groups and corporate boards. That's how these people enrich themselves and buy out honest candidates.
Actually it is not. All of my conservatives friends who I have known for years have changed to either democrat or independent. Every single one. Even my father who is super conservative has had enough. The backlash that will be caused from the extreme facist right that is defined by the Tea Party will cause polictics to swing to far to the left.
The Republican Party needs to come back to there senses or we will have a mess on our hands.
The elections in 2012 will decimiate the Republican Party in congress. We need balance and debate.
Sure, they have. And all my Democrat friends have turned into Birchers. Every single one.
And why would I doubt your word. Not every single one of anything does the same thing. Geez. You think we were as stupid, the BS you expect us to swallow.
Let me help you out.
You guys believe whatever, BS Obama spews, no questions asked. Sycophants, I believe, is the term. However, don't think we are stupid enough to do the same thing regarding what you say. It isn't going to happen.
You guys remind me of a nest full of tiny, newly-hatched birds wit their mouths wide-open turned to the sky. However, instead of food being dropped down the wide-open mouths. Obama is dumping all manner of BS down your gullets while you guys swallow deeply singing, um-um good.
Well it looks like hussein obama's efforts to put shills on CD is working. I am a member of a tea party. Meet monthly with other tea parties close to us and can verify from out end the OP and the rest of the obots do not know what they are talking about.
BIG FAIL!
I love the "I used to be a Republican" and word for word out comes the Dem talking points
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No self-proclaimed conservative would EVER vote for dems, none. Troll thread for the C-D circle jerkers.
