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Old 11-29-2011, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The population density in the northeast isn't too different from Europe. Our cities are close enough together for it to be highly feasible and it would reduce the need for further road building.
Yes, but it still costs millions (usually tens of millions) of dollars per mile to build high-speed rail. We can't afford it.

I've also taken Eurostar between London and Paris. It was very convenient and I definitely enjoyed the experience. But it wouldn't work in the US except in the Washington-Boston corridor. (We already have HSR (Amtrak Acela) in the NE technically, but it is very slow compared to HSR in Europe and Asia.)
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Altoona, PA
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Yes, but it still costs millions (usually tens of millions) of dollars per mile to build high-speed rail. We can't afford it.

I've also taken Eurostar between London and Paris. It was very convenient and I definitely enjoyed the experience. But it wouldn't work in the US except in the Washington-Boston corridor. (We already have HSR (Amtrak Acela) in the NE technically, but it is very slow compared to HSR in Europe and Asia.)
It would cost billions, but it's an investment for the future and would create tens of thousands of jobs in the interim. The private sector would cover some of te cost as it would be a worthy long-term investment. It would save money in the long run and would break some of our dependency on oil, particularly foreign oil.

It wouldn't be feasible to cover the entire country, but the northeast would be a good starting point.

Perhaps we can't afford to NOT consider it? Traffic is only going to get worse and planes are oil dependent and guzzlers.
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Altoona, PA
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This our only HSR:

Acela Express - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I've never used it. Top speed is 150mph, but it averages half that. If it could be expanded, jazzed up and if the speed could be increased (doubled), it'd really give airlines a run for their money.
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:41 PM
 
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Please name me one HSR project that has turned a profit for their investors. Just one. (and before you jump on me, I take a train to work every day)
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:45 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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This our only HSR:

Acela Express - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I've never used it. Top speed is 150mph, but it averages half that. If it could be expanded, jazzed up and if the speed could be increased (doubled), it'd really give airlines a run for their money.
Absolutely.

It is a diamond in the rough ... it has not been perfected, the rail lines need to be upgraded so it can perform to peak performance.

Does anyone have any idea how much traffic and commuting goes on in the 90 miles between New York and Philly?
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Old 11-29-2011, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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Please name me one HSR project that has turned a profit for their investors. Just one. (and before you jump on me, I take a train to work every day)
Acela makes a profit...
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Old 11-29-2011, 06:53 PM
 
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Population density: France, 295/ sq mi. Florida, 351/ sq mi. Why can the French travel from Paris to Lyon faster than Floridians from Miami to Orlando? Perhaps we have a higher density of goofball politicians.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:37 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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This our only HSR:

Acela Express - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I've never used it. Top speed is 150mph, but it averages half that. If it could be expanded, jazzed up and if the speed could be increased (doubled), it'd really give airlines a run for their money.
Actually Amtrak and Northeast gets along with the Airliners , the Airliners have used Amtrak to cut regional Flights and future wise will be used to reduce the need to expand or create New Airports...
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Old 11-30-2011, 03:55 AM
 
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The problem is that a 500-mile plane trip can be done in one hour; arrive at the airport an hour before your plane does (I've been doing just that at LAX for well over a decade), and good luck finding a HSR train that can do the same trip in two hours.
The new high speed trains in China can go up to 310 Km/H which means they can do a 500 mile trip in approx. 2 & half hours.
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Old 12-28-2011, 03:37 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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China has just presented its new high-speed train, which goes over 300 mph, again, miles, not kilometers
It looks fancy, it is supposed to resemble a sword. This is the first high-speed train the Chinese have developed all on their own. And they are proud of it, deservedly so

http://global.crazyengineers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Chinese-Train-High-Speed.jpg (broken link)
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