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No, the man has less responsibilty in pregnancy this is a biological reality.
Once again, the discussion isnt about pregnancy, its about terminating one..
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In human pregnancy, everyone has choices. Yet because pregnancy is not equal, not everyone gets to have the same choices. This is very simple.
never came close to saying they are, I'm simply pointing out that you want to use "biology" as a terminology in a discussion that has nothing to do with "biology".. There is nothing about killing a baby in relationship to a normal life stage of humans.
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You and the other poster couldn't deal with my post about the real aims of conservatives which is to control the sexual behavior of women.
I havent said one word for, or against abortion, you arent doing a very good job at this, and once again, abortions have nothing to do with sexual behavior of women, its a cause and effect, and abortion doesnt control sexual behaviors unless you think people will stop having sex if abortion was banned.
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So instead you went to the old conservative lie whenever they want to attack some group about their lack of personal responsibility.
I did no such thing, I simply attacked the stupidness of thinking that aborting a baby is being responsible..
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So you all brought up the garbage about personal responsibility.
Actually attacking the personal responsibility argument is the topic of the thread. It was brought up by an anti conservative.
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And again this is my answer, it is a biological reality that women are responsible, choice allows them to decide which form their responsibilty will take.
Your answer is just as dumb the 4th time you've said it because abortions have nothing to do with the life process of a human. Why cant you recognize how dumb that statment is?
Lol, of course I answered your question. Anyone can go read the answer.
This discussion is a waste either deal with my answers or don't.
you did not answer the question. should men be given the right to not have anything to do with an unwanted child, or should he be financially responsible for the child for 18 years?
The original discussion is why conservatives support banning abortion thus forcing all women in America by the power of the state to carry every pregnancy to term and yet don't support a robust safety net for those same mothers and their babies?
I gave a great answer to that question which is what the discussion is about.
You and the other poster unable to address the reality of the aims of conservatives to control the sexual behavior of women.
Brought the strawman argument of personal responsibility. I gave a great answer to that bs question as well.
Speaking of strawman, the original argument, along with your replies are garbage because there hasnt been a bill presented to ban abortions in what, 50+ years?
Its lefties who all need a boogieman, in order to defend their position, which is quite telling actually.
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Lol, of course I answered your question. Anyone can go read the answer.
This discussion is a waste either deal with my answers or don't.
Once again, the discussion isnt about pregnancy, its about terminating one..
never came close to saying they are, I'm simply pointing out that you want to use "biology" as a terminology in a discussion that has nothing to do with "biology".. There is nothing about killing a baby in relationship to a normal life stage of humans.
I havent said one word for, or against abortion, you arent doing a very good job at this, and once again, abortions have nothing to do with sexual behavior of women, its a cause and effect, and abortion doesnt control sexual behaviors unless you think people will stop having sex if abortion was banned.
I did no such thing, I simply attacked the stupidness of thinking that aborting a baby is being responsible..
Actually attacking the personal responsibility argument is the topic of the thread. It was brought up by an anti conservative.
Your answer is just as dumb the 4th time you've said it because abortions have nothing to do with the life process of a human. Why cant you recognize how dumb that statment is?
No, this disussion is about why conservatives support banning abortions which would require that all pregnancies are forced to term by the power of the state while not also supporting a robust safety net for the mother and the newborn.
I answered that question. You have not dealt with that answer.
Instead the other poster went to you and you joined in the old bs personal responsibilty garbage.
I answered that question, then you brought up men, I answered that question as well and since neither answer has been disputed, you and the other poster are insisting that I re answer the same questions that already have answers.
This is a waste either deal with my answers or don't.
you did not answer the question. should men be given the right to not have anything to do with an unwanted child, or should he be financially responsible for the child for 18 years?
yes, men should be responsible for the children they create. one night stand or not. if a man doesn't want to be financially responsible for an unwanted child he needs to make sure he is using birth control. unlike a woman he doesn't have the abortion option. use birth control or pay the price
yes, men should be responsible for the children they create. one night stand or not. if a man doesn't want to be financially responsible for an unwanted child he needs to make sure he is using birth control. unlike a woman he doesn't have the abortion option. use birth control or pay the price
so the right to choose is only for women. gotcha. men shouldn't have a say about what a woman does with her body, but that woman should have the "right" to control that man's quality of life.
No, this disussion is about why conservatives support banning abortions which would require that all pregnancies are forced to term by the power of the state while not also supporting a robust safety net for the mother and the newborn.
Like I said, you need a boogieman strawman argument, unless you can present to me where there has been a bill proposed to outlaw abortion..
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I answered that question. You have not dealt with that answer.
No you havent, because abortions are NOT a biological stage of being human
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Instead the other poster went to you and you joined in the old bs personal responsibilty garbage..
ok, so now we're getting somewhere, personal responsibility = garbage.. I guess this makes your previous statement that having an abortion is responsible.. garbage... I agree
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I answered that question, then you brought up men, I answered that question as well and since neither answer has been disputed, you and the other poster are insisting that I re answer the same questions that already have answers.
No you havent
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This is a waste either deal with my answers or don't.
Sorry, thats not an option. Thats like suggesting that murdering a child is being responsible, oh wait, you already did that..
so the right to choose is only for women. gotcha. men shouldn't have a say about what a woman does with her body, but that woman should have the "right" to control that man's quality of life.
does a woman have the right to say what a man does with his body? no they don't. a man has no right either to what a woman does with hers.
this has nothing to do with a woman controlling a man's quality of life. your spin doesn't work
if a man doesn't want a child he needs to make sure he doesn't have one. period. how easy is that. as I said unlike a woman, "after the fact" abortion is not an option for him.
Speaking of strawman, the original argument, along with your replies are garbage because there hasnt been a bill presented to ban abortions in what, 50+ years?
Its lefties who all need a boogieman, in order to defend their position, which is quite telling actually.
You didnt come close.
Lol, really conservatives have not had a bill to ban abortion?
Now this is very simple if preborn are given equal protection under the 14th amendment if this law passed this would make abortion illegal and murder and a violation of the constitutional rights o preborn human persons.
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