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Old 04-03-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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Capital punishment is not murder.

Abortion is.
Thou shalt not kill is thou shalt not kill. No fine print or disclaimers in that tablet etched in stone.

Capital punishment, and the job we do in the military, is given full consent and justification by clergy. Name chapter and verse in New Testament where they base that authorization. These very same clergy, unanimously male, are stone cold deaf to womens issues. When it comes to medical complications, you declare it's murder. Yes, you ARE murdering 2 for the price of one hypocrisy.

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Liberal/progressive policies have made the man of the house unnecessary.

If people would live by some code of decent conduct, many of the problems of society would disappear.
BS. Don't childishly deflect your responsibility for your own free will, rob others of theirs, then whine about how you're shunned. The liberal devil made me do it, and the dog ate my homework?

Liberal/ progressive policies didn't decide that men shouldn't live up to chastity, trade their religion for an Ayn Rand 'somewhat' religion, dictate the terms of marriage, or any such nonsense. Men let that go all by themselves lead around with sex, drugs, rock n roll and whatever 5 million other distractions marketeers are all too happy to sell each and every one of you. The same people selling you vice are the same people bankrolling the think tanks putting words in your mouth. If you want crack, you're the customer, we'll sell you crack. When males are ready to let that go & grow the hell up, they might rediscover the challenge of being a good life partner & parent is far more rewarding. No one ran you off. You made yourselves unfit for the job by your own misdirected attention and lack of self discipline.

The invention of BC didn't force anyone to be promiscuous. People are promiscuous when they aren't taught by their parents and see zero value in abstinence among their peers. They see no value in abstinence because our culture is instant gratification/ porn centered. It's where all the rewards are. You won't buy a car unless it's sexy. You won't buy asprin unless it's sexy. Kids are being pimped on stages by their own parents for crying out loud! It's sick.

Who is leading whom? Read it and weep...
The Swinging Paradigm: Appendices
"Somewhat religious", 'pillars of the community', super majority republican males are not looking anything remotely resembling the men I admire. The "king" of morality has a sweet tooth for lesser educated, less accomplished, younger women lacking self respect. Do you not see how bizarre it is the very same young woman he chases sexually is the very same woman he tries to punish politically (for his own guilt!) all the while donning a halo on his head? How many others unwilling to play this game with him have to get thrown under the bus over it?
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Old 04-03-2011, 12:17 PM
 
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ever notice liberals are just full of excuses
I notice more how regularly self identified conservatives hurl false allegations. Are you one of those 'somewhat religious' guys? Selective attention, the law applies only to those it doesn't represent? Applicable only to those who fail to be like minded?
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Old 04-03-2011, 12:34 PM
 
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That is the way it has been done. Obviously it isn't working. Insanity is continuing to throw money at a 30+ year social policy that is obviously failed.
False allegations. Burden of proof is upon you.

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With freedom comes responsibility. It is way past time for people to again take responsibility for their own lives instead of expecting government, via taxpayers, to step in and fill the gaps for everyone not willing to so do.
When republican policies suppress wages applicable to the bottom, how has that enabled anyone to lift themselves out of poverty? Why have republicans gone very far out of their way to declare economic warfare on the masses, then instruct you to attack all others as the cause to deflect accountability from themselves?

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At this time the country is broke from throwing good money after bad.
Has your concept of holy war changed yet, or is paying billions for a HARP program more important than constitutional provisions to provide general welfare for progeny? When multi national corps are given license to be above the law, beyond reproach of taxation, and alter our economy negatively by accelerating global trade imbalance, punishing those

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Private charity will have to fill the gap.
Multi denomination religions and multiple private charities advocated for these policies in the first place. It's also referenced as mission statement in constitution. Live elsewhere if you don't like the constitution.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Well, I happen to think some people should die. Like the two men that broke into that home and beat the husband, killed the wife and two daughters {after raping the little girls and their mother} then setting the house on fire.

There is no mistake or doubt that those two men did it........and I think they deserve to die for it.

If your heart bleeds for men like that, and you think they have the right to life after what they did, then more power to you.

As far as abortion goes, that is not murder, a fetus is not a person, it is nothing more than an organism.
I believe in capital punishment but only in very rare circumstances, and I happen to agree with you on the Petit murders.

Both abortion and capital punishment are murder, as both involve taking another's life. However you want to justify either is between you and your maker.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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It is really pitiful that delusional people think telling someone to "just not have sex" is going to work. Has that ever worked before?
Did it work with Bristol Palin?


Your solution might work in Mother Goose Land, but it is NOT going to work in the REAL world.
Omigosh you are missing the point. I'm not saying to just tell someone not to have sex. It's about creating real consequences for actions by eliminating the possibility of abortion.

Why the hell are we still discussing this on this thread?????
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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false at 5 weeks it has a heartbeat...its a baby


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Can it live outside the host (mother)? If not, it is nothing more than a parasite at this stage. Harsh way of saying it but true.
It is not a parasite! Not at any stage. A parasitic relationship involves detriment to the host. There is no detriment to the host in the vast majority of pregnancies.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Walmart isn't everywhere. How about someone who doesn't live near one?
They can figure it out. Walgreen's, KMart and CVS all have similar programs. There are drugstores everywhere. Come on, now, use your head.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Those programs do not cover ALL birth control pills only specific generic options and they are not in every state as some states prohibit the sale of Rx drugs at a loss. Not all women can take the same kind of birth control, but the cheaper options are a good sign and I hope they continue to lower the costs for ALL birth control pills as well as other birth control devices like IUDs which have a better success rate as you don't have to remember to take contraceptives.

But don't put it out there that all women can get all birth control pills for $12 or $9 (which I believe is the cost at both Walmart and Target now) because that is not true.
It IS true. The point of BCP is to prevent pregnancy, not to work on your acne or your mood swings. Generic is good enough for anyone.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Throwing kids to the wolves negates any need for civilization. Looks to me that's the real GOP plan.

Just who is throwing kids to the wolves? Their parents, it appears.
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Where did the idea that health coverage and a doctors visit should be free?

Will a mechanic check out your car for free?

Will a plumber come to your house for free?

I'll repeat what I stated a few times already......if sexual freedom is important to you, how important is it?

If you can't afford it, don't do it.
They will never understand this.

I'd like to add that if these morons can't even save up enough money to get a $150ish exam once a year, they DEFINITELY cannot afford a child, even after all their welfare checks come in...at least not to my standards anyway. Kids need more than just food, shelter and daycare, they need loving parents who want to give them a good life. You can't do that on welfare. And the cycle continues....
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