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View Poll Results: Would you consider voting for Ron Paul?
Yes 31 31.96%
No 51 52.58%
Maybe with more information about him 4 4.12%
I've alreading decided to Vote for Obama 11 11.34%
Voters: 97. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-14-2011, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Sometimes, too much of states' rights person as well, whereas I'm for people's rights.
Ummm, the opposite of states' rights is NOT people's rights. I don't know where you got that idea from. States' rights is a lot closer to 'the people' than federal intrusionistic takeovers and power grabs.

Here's but one example: What's the opposite of state's rights?
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Old 05-14-2011, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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He was interviewed on CNN yesterday, and he stated he's anti-abortion and wants to repeal Roe v. Wade. Have you heard a different stance from him?
He believes it should be a state issue and not a federal one thus his reason for wanting to repeal Roe v. Wade.

It is true he is personally against abortion, but his perspective isn't from a religious stand point. It is from his experiences as an OBGYN.
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Another well informed Obama supporter, it's the John Birch Society.

The John Birch Society

Their slogan on their website is "Less government, more responsibility and with God's help, a better world". I can see how that would **** off a lot of rabid liberal idiots.
Pretty low of you to chide someone for a typo.
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The 9th Amendment precedes and therefore "chiefs" the 10th Amendment.
I. . .don't. . . think. . . so! The first ten were all adopted together, anyway. Is Hawaii a less imortant state than Delaware?
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
Let me guess...

I dunno. Maybe about $128 billion?

Do you drive much through states that have toll roads?

I have.

Here's what I've noticed.

The roads are NOT in better shape than public roads. Matter of fact, they oftentimes have MILES of multilanes blocked down to single lanes. Of course, the tolls aren't reduced when they have traffic clogged up the wazoo. You pay as much for a trip over a crumbly, constricted, under-construction roadway as you would when it's clear sailing.

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Yes, the Pennsylvania Turnpike is an excellent example.

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Reagan was old, he did alright.
Reagan was showing signs of dementia in his first term, according to his son.

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Reagan was 70 when he began his term and 78 at the end of his presidency.

If elected, Paul would be 77 at the start of his presidency. I don't care who you are, 77 is too old be POTUS.

As for Reagan doing 'alright', that's a matter of opinion, isn't it?
See above about Reagan.
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:53 PM
 
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He was interviewed on CNN yesterday, and he stated he's anti-abortion and wants to repeal Roe v. Wade. Have you heard a different stance from him?

If that's true it completely destroys his credibility as a libertarian. If he was a true libertarian he wouldn’t care one way or another and he would view it as a private matter.

The fact he would take this view is indicative that he would pander to social conservatives on issues even if those issues go against libertarian principles.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:04 PM
 
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If that's true it completely destroys his credibility as a libertarian. If he was a true libertarian he wouldn’t care one way or another and he would view it as a private matter.

The fact he would take this view is indicative that he would pander to social conservatives on issues even if those issues go against libertarian principles.
Since you obviously don't know what a libertarian is and you'd rather spread manure than be bothered to check a fact:It's about individual rights and Ron Paul belief is a child has the same right to life inside the womb as a child would on the outside.

Ultimately he believes it is for the individual states to rule on abortion as the Constitution doesn't provide for it way or the other.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:28 PM
 
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Yes, the Pennsylvania Turnpike is an excellent example.



Reagan was showing signs of dementia in his first term, according to his son.



See above about Reagan.
i have ZERO respect for a son who will badmouth his father after he is gone.

what kind of a loser does that?

probably the kind of loser who would like to get some attention again.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:35 PM
 
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No. I'm a teacher and his stance on education alone is enough for me to never consider voting for him.
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Old 05-14-2011, 08:37 PM
 
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No. I'm a teacher and his stance on education alone is enough for me to never consider voting for him.
No one wants their gravy train to end.
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