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It makes a good point about the timing of when they were abused in relation to when they considered themselves to have homosexual feelings.
But I am not sure that this washes out the overall point of the study. It certainly would diminish the ratio between straight and gay.
I think, homosexuality is very very complicated and trying to reduce it to genetic determinism is what people, at least me, butt heads with, particularly if there are factors such as abuse contributing to their orientation. I do not think we can say it is one factor or that it is not capable of being understood, as other psychological issues are understood. In saying that the question would still remain as to whether or not it is even needed to be 'treated' as other issues are. Contrary to Bachmann, I am sure many homosexuals have a balanced life, yet alot do not.
'The main results — gays report more abuse than straights — may indeed be correct, given the similarity to past studies. However,I do not believe any inferences about causationshould be made. Without the actual surveys, there is no way a reader can figure out the results from the journal article and/or the dissertation.
One final thought, the research on sexual abuse among GLBT populations is often misused to make inferences about causation. There are many reasons why this line of research is important but causation is not at the top. Sexual abuse is a profoundly disruptive experience for many people and may contribute to a variety of negative outcomes in adulthood. Finding appropriate clinical and ministry responses may be clouded by focusing on the trauma as a cause of same-sex attraction.'
You still have not been able to come up with any credible research that shows that homosexuality is caused by child sexual abuse, yet you keep claiming it over and over.
There is a great deal of research on child sexual abuse and none of it supports your opinion.
On what do you base your opinion? The "junk science" and ignorant prejudiced opinions found on many anti-gay religious propaganda websites? LOL!
I'm sure your attempt at changing the subject, in order to deflect criticism away from the OP, is considered clever among your pals, however, this thread is not about sexual molestation, nor the possible causal factors associated with the homosexual condition.
If you would like to gather responses relating to the long term effects of child sexual abuse, perhaps you should start a thread.
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It makes a good point about the timing of when they were abused in relation to when they considered themselves to have homosexual feelings.
But I am not sure that this washes out the overall point of the study. It certainly would diminish the ratio between straight and gay.
I think, homosexuality is very very complicated and trying to reduce it to genetic determinism is what people, at least me, butt heads with, particularly if there are factors such as abuse contributing to their orientation. I do not think we can say it is one factor or that it is not capable of being understood, as other psychological issues are understood. In saying that the question would still remain as to whether or not it is even needed to be 'treated' as other issues are.
It was inherently flawed from the beginning. For a start, it uses people answering a questionaire at a booth at a gay pride parade for it's homosexual sample and students at colleges for it's heterosexual sample.
It also ignores the research that straight men are less likely to admit to being sexually abused because of the fear of being stigmatized as "gay".
It ignores the fact that many of the homosexuals in the study realised that they were different before they were sexually abused.
I agree, sexual orientation and human sexuality is very complex.
I don't think you'll find too many people trying to claim that homosexuality is soley determined genetically, though there does seem to be a genetic influence as well as environmental influences such as pre-natal hormones and birth order etc.
However, contrary to what the "pray away the gay" types claim, there isn't any credible evidence that the way a child is raised, or childhood sexual abuse causes their sexual orientation. This is backed up by all the major worldwide health organizations including the American Academy of Pediatrics.
Child sexual abuse can certainly screw up person, whether they have a heterosexual, bisexual or homosexual orientation.
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Originally Posted by Shiloh1
Contrary to Bachmann, I am sure many homosexuals have a balanced life, yet alot do not.
I am sure we can agree that many heterosexuals have a balanced life, yet a lot do not.
Last edited by Ceist; 07-15-2011 at 10:48 PM..
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