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Old 07-21-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Another "job creator" long on political slogans and short on details. Taxes that would have kept him from building Home Depot? What taxes would those have been?
Apparently, you haven't been paying much attention to the business community the last 2 years.....they've laid it all out, the reasons why they are not hiring, growing, expanding - it's obama and his radical, leftist agenda.

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That would be income taxes, payroll taxes, excise taxes etc., along with unbelievable new levels of regulations, the spectre of the health care destruction bill and the fact that you have an anti-business bucket of pureed spent Bull-chow as president of the US.


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That really does get to the heart of the matter...which one would you believe? Personally, I'm going to believe the business owner that actually has the experience to back up his claims.
Not just one, but a plethora of business owners and groups have said the same...but still, obama turns a deaf ear.

So be it.....as long as he continues the job-killing policies, they will sit on their hands and cash, just as consumers are doing....until this disaster is out of the WH.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:28 AM
 
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Does the Home Depot co-founder employ 321,000 people? No.
Home Depot does.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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how about all the new taxes in the obamacare law that are coming online? but it isnt just taxes as many of us have said many times before, it is also all the regulations being piled on business. obamacare, the dodd/frank financial reform law, the EPA, OSHA, etc. all of these conspire to create a hostile environment on business, and they also cost business money to comply with these regulations, and lots of it.

so stop already with the "just the taxes" rubbish, and deal with the entire problem.



no when you take a crap you are creating job security at the treatment plant.
... or creating collectables for the White House gift shop.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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His instincts are socialist in nature. He is also vindictive, petty and will go after those that speak up.
Please provide specific examples with sources to back this claim.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Why the Wealthiest Americans Are the Real 'Job-Killers'

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That the wealthy are “job creators,†and therefore have interests that must be defended by the public at large, is a talking-point that, however facile, is so popular it slips effortlessly from the lips of conservatives every day.

It can be deployed for any purpose – not only in calling for more tax breaks for the rich, but also when opposing public interest regulation, consumer litigation and worker protections. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minnesota, even used it to deflect attention from the "gay rehabilitation" services her clinic allegedly offers. When asked about it by ABC News, Bachmann merely acknowledged, “we do have a business that deals with job creation.†When pressed, she stuck with it: “As I said, again, we’re very proud of our business and we’re proud of all job creators in the United States.â€

It's also complete nonsense; the opposite of the truth. Sure, the wealthy create a few jobs – people who offer exclusive services or sell them high-end goods. But the overwhelming majority of jobs in this country are “created†by ordinary Americans when they spend their paychecks.

Consumer demand accounts for around 70 percent of our economic output. And with so much wealth having been redistributed upward through a 40-year class-war from above, American consumers are too tapped out to spend as they once did. This remains the core issue in this sluggish, largely jobless recovery. The wealthy, in their voracious appetite for a bigger piece of the national pie, are the real job-killers in this economic climate.

Don't take my word for it. The Wall Street Journal reported this week that “the main reason U.S. companies are reluctant to step up hiring is scant demand, rather than uncertainty over government policies, according to a majority of economists†the paper surveyed. That jibes with what business owners themselves are saying. Last week, the National Federation of Independent Businesses released a survey of small businessmen and women that found widespread “pessimism about future business conditions and expected real sales gains.â€
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Home Depot does.
And he retired from HD almost a decade ago.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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It's that simple: Demand.

Economics 101.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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It's that simple: Demand.

Economics 101.
Yeah, demand comes from consumers....and they're having none of obama's ruinous policies either.

Those that can spend, like me, aren't. Not only because of the new taxes coming, but also because it would enable him and the very policies that are bringing the US to it's knees.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Yeah, demand comes from consumers....and they're having none of obama's ruinous policies either.
Any more ruinous than the previous guy? If you think so, support it with facts.

The economy is still bad but it isn't shedding 700,000 jobs a month the way it was the month Obama was inaugurated.

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Old 07-21-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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Any more ruinous than the previous guy? If you think so, support it with facts.
I'm afraid you'll be waiting for a while...
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