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Old 08-01-2011, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Originally Posted by andrea3821 View Post
I already posted a similar quote, they don't care. It's typical of them, though.
So words can ONLY have ONE meaning?

"Cracker" ONLY means the squares you eat with your soup, huh?

 
Old 08-01-2011, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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I don't think anyone is saying that. I'm certainly not.

The term is definitely racist to people of a certain generation, however. The fact that you are unaware of it does not make it any less racist.
No, that would be the OP. These kinds of threads/posts are not surprising from a certain group of liberals here on C-D.

True, it may be a racial slur, but its original intent was not racist and you can't necessarily pin someone as a racist just b/c they use the term.
 
Old 08-01-2011, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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Unfortunately, the English language doesn't have any other phrases that describe the situation being referred to. The tar baby reference isn't a racial slur, it's a way to describe a situation that no matter what you do you're a mess, and every move gets you stuck deeper in the mire.

Actually, nothing proves racism more than this obsession with words that in the past had racial implications. For this reason the worst racists today are the ones who say Obama's performance as President cannot be criticized in any way--because he's half African-American. Any group that gets together and censors every word for racial connotation is not relaxed and comfortable with members of various races--it is a group exquisitely aware of any minorities present, and worried about "proving" that they are not, in fact, racist in any way. But by being so obsessed, they prove the exact opposite.

I have never heard a group of African-Americans afraid to say the "N" word (which I dare not even write, so absurd has this become), or to make racial remarks. And when my college roommate turned out to be oriental, I eventually forgot about censoring my speech, as friendship replaced all labels. Perhaps when liberals are able to look past Obama's color and see his performance as President, they'll realize that following ALL of Bush's misguided policies, but spending ten times as much on them, makes him even more of a disaster than Bush was.
 
Old 08-01-2011, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Unfortunately, the English language doesn't have any other phrases that describe the situation being referred to. The tar baby reference isn't a racial slur, it's a way to describe a situation that no matter what you do you're a mess, and every move gets you stuck deeper in the mire.

Actually, nothing proves racism more than this obsession with words that in the past had racial implications. For this reason the worst racists today are the ones who say Obama's performance as President cannot be criticized in any way--because he's half African-American. Any group that gets together and censors every word for racial connotation is not relaxed and comfortable with members of various races--it is a group exquisitely aware of any minorities present, and worried about "proving" that they are not, in fact, racist in any way. But by being so obsessed, they prove the exact opposite.

I have never heard a group of African-Americans afraid to say the "N" word (which I dare not even write, so absurd has this become), or to make racial remarks. And when my college roommate turned out to be oriental, I eventually forgot about censoring my speech, as friendship replaced all labels. Perhaps when liberals are able to look past Obama's color and see his performance as President, they'll realize that following ALL of Bush's misguided policies, but spending ten times as much on them, makes him even more of a disaster than Bush was.
Great, well thought out post. Too bad I can't rep you again.
 
Old 08-01-2011, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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No, that would be the OP. These kinds of threads/posts are not surprising from a certain group of liberals here on C-D.

True, it may be a racial slur, but its original intent was not racist and you can't necessarily pin someone as a racist just b/c they use the term.
No matter if the intent was there to say something racial or not, a member of Congress should no better than to use racist slurs.
 
Old 08-01-2011, 10:12 PM
 
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What about the Tar Heels? Isn't that a football team or basketball team? The fans think nothing of calling themselves that and are proud of their team but if you want to label it a racist term then go right ahead. It's a free country.
 
Old 08-01-2011, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Originally Posted by NHartphotog View Post
Unfortunately, the English language doesn't have any other phrases that describe the situation being referred to. The tar baby reference isn't a racial slur, it's a way to describe a situation that no matter what you do you're a mess, and every move gets you stuck deeper in the mire.

Actually, nothing proves racism more than this obsession with words that in the past had racial implications. For this reason the worst racists today are the ones who say Obama's performance as President cannot be criticized in any way--because he's half African-American. Any group that gets together and censors every word for racial connotation is not relaxed and comfortable with members of various races--it is a group exquisitely aware of any minorities present, and worried about "proving" that they are not, in fact, racist in any way. But by being so obsessed, they prove the exact opposite.

I have never heard a group of African-Americans afraid to say the "N" word (which I dare not even write, so absurd has this become), or to make racial remarks. And when my college roommate turned out to be oriental, I eventually forgot about censoring my speech, as friendship replaced all labels. Perhaps when liberals are able to look past Obama's color and see his performance as President, they'll realize that following ALL of Bush's misguided policies, but spending ten times as much on them, makes him even more of a disaster than Bush was.


Of course however you are simply making things up (surprise surprise). No one has said Obama can't be criticized because he is black or half-black. Now, some people have said some of the criticism he has received is because he is black, but no one has said he is black or half-black so you can't ever criticize him. Stop making that crap up.
 
Old 08-01-2011, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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What about the Tar Heels? Isn't that a football team or basketball team? The fans think nothing of calling themselves that and are proud of their team but if you want to label it a racist term then go right ahead. It's a free country.
What are you talking about?
 
Old 08-01-2011, 10:16 PM
 
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How does anyone not know what a Tar Baby is? And if they didn't know the derogatory term for it, I doubt they would know some alternative use for it.
 
Old 08-01-2011, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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What about the Tar Heels? Isn't that a football team or basketball team? The fans think nothing of calling themselves that and are proud of their team but if you want to label it a racist term then go right ahead. It's a free country.

Blacks have been called tar babies as a racist term. Blacks have not been called Tar Heals as a racist term. Why is that so hard to comprehend??
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