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Back in 1900, we didn't have highways either, so lets elliminate those highways and park those cars. FEMA has done a wonderful job except under Bush during Katrina, but those were poor black families so that was different.
Ron Paul wants the states to be in control of emergency response, you should educate yourself before making ignorant "talking point" comments. In the case of Katrina the state of Louisiana screwed up and expected FEMA to come in and fix everything then blamed FEMA for everything.
If all the people from a state were trained in the areas needed for an emergency and the state put aside monies monthly and yearly and kept a storage warehouse of needed emergency supplies, then when disaster struck, the people themselves were already trained and ready to help their neighbors and would be closer to the scene and thus provide a much faster resposne time. It would save money and time and lives. If we built buildings with the Monolithic.com concept we would have more safe locations and less insurance. Each state would care for its own. Thus eliminating the need of FEMA and thus save millions from the federal budget.
Of course common sense is not the rule of the day. Greed is.
The trouble with your line of thinking is that when a state is struck with a disaster the very people you expect to show up to help could be the very same people who need the help. If you store all emergency supplies locally---without FEMA/federal backup---and that location happens to get destroyed by a tornado, fire or flood, how does that make sense if you can't get outside emergency supplies brought in because we've disbanded the infrastructure to do that? If the people needed to distribute those stored goods, can't get to them because of wide spread damage, how does that help? I also don't understand how anyone can think it's going to be cheaper for the tax payer to shift the FEMA responsibilities to the states. We'd just be paying higher state taxes so the bottom line would be the same. FEMA had its problems in the past but we need to continue fixing them, not throw out the whole system.
We have a FEMA trailer storage place right close by to where I live and to a major highway. They're ready to go to any near-by state in need. If all those trailers were destroyed in a tornado, then another FEMA trailer storage place in a near-by state is prepared to bring them up for our use in an emergency. We need the national network kept in place.
Last edited by Wayland Woman; 09-01-2011 at 04:24 PM..
The trouble with your line of thinking is that when a state is struck with a disaster the very people you expect to show up to help could be the very same people who need the help. If you store all emergency supplies locally---without FEMA/federal backup---and that location happens to get destroyed by a tornado, fire or flood, how does that make sense if you can't get outside emergency supplies brought in because we've disbanded the infrastructure to do that? If the people needed to distribute those stored goods, can't get to them because of wide spread damage, how does that help? I also don't understand how anyone can think it's going to be cheaper for the tax payer to shift the FEMA responsibilities to the states. We'd just be paying higher state taxes so the bottom line would be the same. FEMA had its problems in the past, but we need to continue fixing them, not throwing out the whole system.
Great post! (The voice of reason and common sense!)
For a doctor, Paul certainly doesn't have much "bedside manner". This is not the time to talk about dismantling FEMA. My friend in NH says it's bad there, the worst she has ever seen.
Great way to put it! ("Bedside manner!") Good job! Sorry about your friend in NH. I have a friend in NJ who is still without power...Some people have sure lost their ability to "feel" for others and it's sad! I hope they aren't left "high and dry" if they face a natural disaster or other misfortunes in their life....I agree that FEMA and other government organizations need to to be "overhauled" and examined...But it's the callousness on the part of some people that upsets me. And this includes Ron Paul right now.
Insurance is the private market solution. No need for government involvement.
If your going to privatise then insurance is the solution. But one has to see that insurance does not do mnay things like aid in funding to do raod repairs etc that a coty say can not afford to do. if we are goig to stop theis then theres is alot of other funding that needs to stop that aid farmers ;social and civic special interest. My diswagreement is FEMA beig just another middle man between funding to states and local governments in emergency by congress. i alos thing in mnay ways states should be by passed in local funding.FEMA is not that big a agency and most uses private conmtractors. Its llikie the UN when force is needed but we certainly don't give the Un the money to fund the forces.FEMA is just anther middleman and adds to red tape. The genral qaccoutning office wold do a better job likely.No private insurance wants to cover flooding for example;its a federal program. In many states as we see private insurance has pulled out of wind storm coverage.ILokig ahead I thnik many areas flooded in this storm will be looking at much higher llood insurance cost in future as has happened in many areas that have flooded.From what I see at cat 3 with 20 inches of rain could actually make this look like a mild result unforuntunately.
FEMA is not a panacea. If FEMA were around when the hurricane hit Galveston all they would have done would have been to send check to people in Nebraska or something lame and incompetent like that. We'd be in even MORE debt and in the hole if FEMA had had a chance to stick its nose in more disasters.
First of all FEMA, if you've noticed doesn't PREVENT ANYTHING. The number of deaths in Galveston if FEMA were around then would have been the same if not worse... as we saw with Katrina in New Orleans. FEMA officials took the law into their OWN hands. Guns were confiscated. Your ability to maintain your privacy and protect yourself was OUT THE WINDOW! You were ordered around at gun point. "Oh No, Let's not get rid of FEMA! Hazard the thought! How could New Orleanians have managed without stupid government hacks ordering them around! "<<sarcasam>>
Besides if anything is going to help prevent natural disasters it is the Weather Bureau with their more sophisticated forecasting techniques.
The only reason they are keeping FEMA around is to gain MORE control. Bus Americans to FEMA DETAINMENT camps that our tax dollars have been paying for. If they did that, it wouldn't be a first. The Federal Govenemnt did it to the Japanese AMERICAN CITIZENS while ROOSEVELT(one of the most over-reated presidents we've ever had) was in office. Guess what? They used the CENSUS information to track them down.
How many C/D posters answered all the questions on the Census? ?????????
One realistic example of the states being unable to respond effectively during emergencies is Vermont. The majority of the Vermont National Guard equipment, like their helicopters, is in Afghanistan. Other states (New Hampshire, Illinois) have had to send people and equipment in to deal with the flooding from Irene.
We are one country, and are not 50 independent individual states. United we stand...
How many C/D posters answered all the questions on the Census? ?????????
For pete's sake, all the Census Bureau has to do is join Facebook, and they'd have a more accurate count than waiting and depending on our crazed paranoid citizens.
Geeze people. Walmart and their trucks of water get to disaster areas quicker then FEMA.
FEMA ends up being more red tape and bungling at the very time you don't want it.
Let states have that FEMA money. States do more to help their own people and those of other states so give them the FEMA money.
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