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it can't work like alcohol which is taxed something like 60-250% off the top of my head. Producing safe, mass-produced alcohol is much harder than growing a plant, picking from it, rolling it up and smoking it. People aren't going to pay 2,3,4,5x the market value of something they can grow next to their tomato plant.
Yes they will. You can grow tobacco right next to your tomato plant, at least where I am from, but not many people do that.
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Yeah but tobacco in its raw state is terrible, it has to be processed with loads of chemicals unattainable to the average person. Regulating anything that has no real production process is fairly difficult because then the only means to regulate it is by population control which becomes a costly quixotic endeavor(sorry, too much verbal diarreah at the end).
Yeah but tobacco in its raw state is terrible, it has to be processed with loads of chemicals unattainable to the average person. Regulating anything that has no real production process is fairly difficult because then the only means to regulate it is by population control which becomes a costly quixotic endeavor(sorry, too much verbal diarreah at the end).
No...You just have to cure it. People have been dealing with tobacco for centuries before the synthetic chemicals they use in today's cigarettes were discovered. The Oxidization is what makes it not taste terrible. Most of the chemical additives are put in either to speed up the process since curing can take a while or to make it more addictive. It is not so much for taste.
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OK, but your still making my point in that tobacco is a very laborious job without infrastructure unlike marijuana. Tobacco-growing was a backbreaking proposition back in the day that essentially had to be subsidized through slave-labor.
No...You just have to cure it. The Oxidization is what makes it not taste terrible.
The poster's referring to commercial scale cultivation and production, which the average person can't do. The costs of growing tobacco for personal use versus commercial scale up way more than the same comparison for marijuana which makes the latter much harder to potentially regulate.
OK, but your still making my point in that tobacco is a very laborious job without infrastructure unlike marijuana. Tobacco-growing was a backbreaking proposition back in the day that essentially had to be subsidized through slave-labor.
Marijuana is just as labor intensive. This is because although the curing process is easier, unlike tobacco and nicotine marijuana doesn't just have THC. A plant's THC content is based on a boat load of factor that make it far more tricky then tobacco to grow. A good comparison would be viniculture.
As to tobacco, nowadays we have farm equipment. Slave Labor was for large scale pre-industrial growing of cash crops generally (key word being large scale), not just tobacco.
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Your correct that it is just as labor-intensive per plant/acreage, but the yield per plant is much higher with marijuana. One marijuana plant goes much further in the market than a tobacco plant because of potency, it(tobacco) has more consumers and because it is more addictive, will be consumed at a higher rate per user. If the demand for marijuana were so great that we'd need giant farms like here in Ohio or North Carolina, then I'd agree it could be regulated effectively.
Your correct that it is just as labor-intensive per plant/acreage, but the yield per plant is much higher with marijuana. One marijuana plant goes much further in the market than a tobacco plant because of potency, it(tobacco) has more consumers and because it is more addictive, will be consumed at a higher rate per user. If the demand for marijuana were so great that we'd need giant farms like here in Ohio or North Carolina, then I'd agree it could be regulated effectively.
Thats not true at all.
Once you've
a. trim (cut all of the leaves off and left only buds)
b. dry (shrivel right up to about 1/4 of their original size
c. cure (shrink up more
d. trim one more time
There isn't much left.
Realisticaly, you're looking about at most two ounces per plant of dry weight. You can get more, usually from higher yield strains and outdoor grows, but most growing today for quality stuff is indoor, under lights, grown using hydroponics, and the yields are far smaller.
You smoke almost all of a tobacco plant.
The difference is, you smoke the flower with marijuana, you smoke the leaf with tobacco.
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