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Old 10-29-2011, 03:59 PM
 
Location: NC
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Ahh, that racist homogenous state that only allows people in that are willing to assimilate. Even then they only allow a certain amount because they know their resources are limited.https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/sw.html
For their size sweden has a substantial foreign born population. 14.3% is foreign born and 9.2% of the population is born outside of the EU with the largest being the Swedish Iraqi community.

http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cac...-11-034-EN.PDF
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Old 10-29-2011, 03:59 PM
 
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It's a small pond, and racially and culturally closed.
Been watching too much Sound of Music.

Switzerland has:

FOUR official languages German, French, Italian and Romansh! The immigrant population is comprised not only of Europeans but a sizable Sri Lankan population as well. So much for that closed culture.
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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But look at all of the money we have thrown at "fighting poverty". Has it helped? Has our poverty rate decreased or increased (the past 3 years notwithstanding). Throwing money at a problem is not working. We have upp'ed the amount we throw at education and our test scores are plummeting. Once again, throwing money at a problem doesn't solve said problem. We need to evaluate new ways of tackling societal problems instead of just saying we need to pay more and more. Paying more has not improved a thing.
Indeed, I guess many politicians are just not really up to the task, and many of them have their own agendas. I don't know about the US, but when I hear how a former minister of education becomes the minister of finance or defense, as happens all the time in European countries, I can't help but envy these people their obvious expertise in every area out there
Sometimes they simply lack the guts to say, we tried to do this or that, we failed, let's just stop it and think of a totally different strategy. Instead they just try to improve what's never been a good idea in the first place, which can only lead to mediocre results, at best.
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:00 PM
 
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Are you serious?
Is this a trick question?

Look. There has never been, nor will there ever be, another country like the USA. Our system worked just fine and very well, until "Socialists" (who became "Progressives", then they decided to call themselves "Liberal", till we got on to that, and now it's back to "Progressive") started to muck things up!

Have you ever read any American History? Not the pap that they teach in school now, but the real history, from some original sources?

Sounds like you don't know much about your country.
So what period pre WW2 do you wish you were living in?

Do you wish you were in a textile mill working working 60 hours a week 6 days a week with no insurance for slave wages?

Do you wish you were a sharecropper in the deep south in ever more debt to your land lord by the season?

Tell me when the quality of life for a blue collar worker in America was better than it has been since WW2.
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: NC
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Any time. Which way did the immigration flow?
Please give me a year. Any year before you think the "liberals" ruined America.
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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Anybody besides me find it curious that when we are talking about BIG GOVERNMENT in other nations, race and diversity seems to always creep into the conversation??
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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Please give me a year. Any year before you think the "liberal" ruined America.
Any years the doors were open.

The US still admits more than 1,000,000 new legal residents every year.
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:05 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Any years the doors were open.

The US still admits more than 1,000,000 new legal residents every year.
But probably hardly any that won't benefit the US. Plus, your numbers seem a bit high...
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:05 PM
 
Location: NC
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Any years the doors were open.

The US still admits more than 1,000,000 new legal residents every year.
I was asking in reference to this.


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Look. There has never been, nor will there ever be, another country like the USA. Our system worked just fine and very well, until "Socialists" (who became "Progressives", then they decided to call themselves "Liberal", till we got on to that, and now it's back to "Progressive") started to muck things up!
Thus could you please just give me a year...any year you would like, before as alleged "liberals...started to muck things up."
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Old 10-29-2011, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Indeed, I guess many politicians are just not really up to the task, and many of them have their own agendas. I don't know about the US, but when I hear how a former minister of education becomes the minister of finance or defense, as happens all the time in European countries, I can't help but envy these people their obvious expertise in every area out there
Sometimes they simply lack the guts to say, we tried to do this or that, we failed, let's just stop it and think of a totally different strategy. Instead they just try to improve what's never been a good idea in the first place, which can only lead to mediocre results, at best.
Interesting that they have such extensive expertise that they can switch fields like that! I agree with you, Neuling. I wish we had more stand up politicians with the cojones to end programs that don't work or rework them from scratch. I guess it's easier to just ask the taxpayers to fork over more money than admit defeat.
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