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Old 10-31-2018, 09:36 AM
 
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Ahh, so this is a case of "I know what's best for you" syndrome? The democrats sure love to dictate.
Is this an argument for the abolition of the electoral college and a move to a popular vote system?
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:47 AM
 
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Didn't bother to click the govtrack link, eh? It clearly shows 71% in favor, 29% opposed. Another poll by Rasmussen shows 65% oppose birthright citizenship. The only fail is your post, bud.

Rasmussen Reports: 65% of Likely U.S. Voters Oppose Birthright Citizenship for Children of Illegal Aliens

Carry on in your quest for purposeful ignorance.
Considering the article will be 7 on 11/22, I wonder what the percent of like U.S. voters for this is now.
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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I'm for closing the loophole within the 14th Amendment. Every one keep bringing up my ancestors and mentioning slavery. Yes, it was intended to make the newly freed slaves citizens of the country. The problem is they didn't make it specific enough toward us. So if Trump wants to amend that and make it specific to that history, I'm cool with it.
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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Didn't bother to click the govtrack link, eh? It clearly shows 71% in favor, 29% opposed. Another poll by Rasmussen shows 65% oppose birthright citizenship. The only fail is your post, bud.

Rasmussen Reports: 65% of Likely U.S. Voters Oppose Birthright Citizenship for Children of Illegal Aliens

Carry on in your quest for purposeful ignorance.
I opened your govtrack link. I didn't see any poll. I saw a bill that was introduced in 2011 and failed to advance multiple times since then. But since Republicans now control all branches of government, why don't they just do it? Maybe because they realize that Congress doesn't have power to amend the constitution.
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:13 AM
 
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80 Co-sponsors for the Birthright Citizen Act of 2011, and not ONE democrat supports it. Why? The country overwhelmingly is in support of ending birthright citizenship, republicans and democrats alike by a margin of 7-3. Why aren't the democrat members representing their constituents on this issue?

H.R. 140: Birthright Citizenship Act of 2011 (GovTrack.us)
This so-called "birthright citizenship" is a misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment referred to the children of freed slaves. It did not refer to the children of foreign nationals who give birth to children on U.S. soil, and who are NOT "subject to the jurisdiction of the United State."
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:15 PM
 
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I opened your govtrack link. I didn't see any poll. I saw a bill that was introduced in 2011 and failed to advance multiple times since then. But since Republicans now control all branches of government, why don't they just do it? Maybe because they realize that Congress doesn't have power to amend the constitution.

You obviously don't know how many votes it takes to pass a bill through congress and there's a fair share of Republicans who are RINO's in congress so the Republican remain divided in congress. Congress has been divided for some time now and that's why bills fail to advance.


There is no need to amend the Constitution just take it to the Supreme Court for correct and intented interpretation of the wording "and" subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:33 PM
 
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Democrats and the left hate white people and the rule of law, that is why they encourage mass violation of the latter to destroy the former - White Genocide through demographic warfare.
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:39 PM
 
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There is no need to amend the Constitution just take it to the Supreme Court for correct and intented interpretation of the wording "and" subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
That already happened with United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

"The case highlighted disagreements over the precise meaning of one phrase in the Citizenship Clause—namely, the provision that a person born in the United States who is subject to the jurisdiction thereof acquires automatic citizenship. The Supreme Court's majority concluded that this phrase referred to being required to obey U.S. law; on this basis, they interpreted the language of the Fourteenth Amendment in a way that granted U.S. citizenship to at least some children born of foreigners because they were born on American soil (a concept known as jus soli). "

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Old 11-04-2018, 09:47 AM
 
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because the democratic congress can only vote the way the democratic boss tells them to do
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Old 11-04-2018, 03:08 PM
 
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Because the democrats in the US are in the majority.
You are quoting the minority party in america who cheats their way into power .
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