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Old 12-21-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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Sorry, but nobody gives a damn about smokers anymore. You pollute the environment and raise healthcare costs for all.

You have gone the way of the horse and buggy. Get over yourself. It's not a liberal or conservative issue. It's a "the country has evolved and you refuse to" issue.
And nobody gives a damn about people who's only recourse is to get preachy and judgmental.
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:57 AM
 
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It's amazing how non-conformists demand conformity....

It's like a running theme here.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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Sorry, but you can't blame this change in the law on liberals. It's good a business position to take. More people ask to have their rooms changed after checking in because the rooms they were assigned smell bad than there are smokers who check in. It also costs the hotels and motels more money to maintain a room where smokers are because they have to dry clean the drapery and bed spreads more often, not to mention they have to paint more often and replace furniture and counter tops with burn marks more often. The hotels and motels can have a smoker's lounge where smokers can go and the management has a chance to sell them snacks and drinks while they smoke and their insurance rates go down. The law is good for their business.
Let the hotels decide. Government continues to regulate and restrict the private sector more and more.

I travel a lot and spend a lot of time in hotels (travel nurse, go figure!) and all I have to do is ask for a non-smoking room as far from smoking rooms as possible. I never have an issue or smell smoke.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:02 AM
 
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And nobody gives a damn about people who's only recourse is to get preachy and judgmental.
Do you even know what "recourse" means?

What a silly question, obviously you don't.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:03 AM
 
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Sorry, but you can't blame this change in the law on liberals. It's good a business position to take. More people ask to have their rooms changed after checking in because the rooms they were assigned smell bad than there are smokers who check in. It also costs the hotels and motels more money to maintain a room where smokers are because they have to dry clean the drapery and bed spreads more often, not to mention they have to paint more often and replace furniture and counter tops with burn marks more often. The hotels and motels can have a smoker's lounge where smokers can go and the management has a chance to sell them snacks and drinks while they smoke and their insurance rates go down. The law is good for their business.

You don't get a special LOUNGE. You get a designated smoking AREA outside in the snow. Secondly, who wants to leave their private room and run down stairs for a smoke?

The $65 - $100 that the hotel could have gotten for the room was lost when my wife and I said, "We're not staying here".

48 states allow smoking rooms at hotels because they know that it would hurt their economies not to. Michigan and Wisconsin don't. It is Liberal law. The more LIBERAL the more RESTRICTIVE. Loss of FREEDOM.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:07 AM
 
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So what do ya say to libertarians who dont have a problem with gays?
Let's work together to get these fear-ridden zealots out of politics
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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Let's work together to get these fear-ridden zealots out of politics

Im trying bro , Im trying.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:10 AM
 
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You don't get a special LOUNGE. You get a designated smoking AREA outside in the snow. Secondly, who wants to leave their private room and run down stairs for a smoke?

The $65 - $100 that the hotel could have gotten for the room was lost when my wife and I said, "We're not staying here".

48 states allow smoking rooms at hotels because they know that it would hurt their economies not to. Michigan and Wisconsin don't. It is Liberal law. The more LIBERAL the more RESTRICTIVE. Loss of FREEDOM.

Everytime a helmet law a seatbelt law or an income tax is mentioned here its always some liberal with his " great idea" Thank god the voters will not stand for it.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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Do you even know what "recourse" means?

What a silly question, obviously you don't.
Recourse - a source of help or strength : resort <had no recourse left>

Hit a nerve did I? You're entitled to your opinion.. but some of us prefer a more thought out response. So your only (source of help) is to be condescending? Pot meet kettle....

I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm willing to try and learn and be more tolerant. Can you say the same? Does it actually make you feel better to be mean and nasty?
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Michigan and Wisconsin have banned smoking in hotels. This happened last year. Jennifer Granholm is an anti-freedom slob and a left wing zealot. It's no wonder that Michigan elected a Republican this time for Governor.

My wife and I recently went on vacation down south. Coming back north we discovered that we couldn't get a smoking room at any hotel in WI or MI.

Why would these states discourage tourism? Tourism is one of Michigan's biggest industries. It's stupid.

If someone smokes in a hotel room -- IT WILL NOT KILL THE FAMILY IN THE NEXT ROOM. Get it Democrats?

Why is it that whenever LIBERALS are in charge ..... AMERICANS lose their FREEDOM?
It's simple, libs are tyrants. whatever the like or don't like, must be forced upon everyone else in the world, and they use government to make it happen.

The libs in power of the government didn't like the smell of smoke, so they used the point of a gun to force their own personal idiosyncrasies down the throats of the rest of the citizens in their state. Freedom? To hell with freedom, they want what they want, and we will either obey, or suffer the legal consequences.
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