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Old 01-01-2012, 11:27 AM
 
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Yeah, lets all go to Europe, where 165M people live below the poverty level.. thats much better than america where its about 45M
..:: Child Poverty in Europe ::..
Uh, which countries in Europe make up most of the people in "poverty?"
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:27 AM
 
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No, I have been actually to Europe and know people over there.
According to those standards, I guess I can now be an economic advisor to the Mexican government since I'm officially an expert having been there several times.
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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Yeah, lets all go to Europe, where 165M people live below the poverty level.. thats much better than america where its about 45M
..:: Child Poverty in Europe ::..
Where do you get those number from? Which countries does your "Europe" include?
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:29 AM
 
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Our higer education is the best in the world. We dominate the best college rankings.

World's Best Universities; Top 400 Universities in the World | US News

It is our lower and secondary education that stinks.

It is important to note the OP's link is hardly authoritative. I posted a link to a study that reached a different conclusion.
Yes it is the best of the World at the top. No doubt. But ask a european who comes over here who does the same stuff what american students do in 4 years in 2 years.
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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Check the PPP of the various nations. I am tired of lies being used to justify social welfare programs.
I don't care about what you're tired of, but the social welfare programs aren't going anywhere. Most first world societies worth their salt have 'em. We'll always have them too.

Besides, that's not my point. To say that America is the place to be is subjective and mostly nonsensical. It depends on what one wants. When i lived in Western Europe, that's not what i heard. I can't remember more than a hand full of people that felt that coming here would be better. And they're far more informed about this country than we are about Europe, that's for sure.
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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Uh, which countries in Europe make up most of the people in "poverty?"
I posted a link that lists them..

In Russia and Ukraine, for example, one child in seven was malnourished, while in Albania, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan, the figure rose to one in three

Do we get to exclude certain countries that disprove the OP's point? Do these people not count?
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:32 AM
 
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Where do you get those number from? Which countries does your "Europe" include?
Hell, you didnt even need to read the link provided, did you?
..:: Child Poverty in Europe ::..

Very first sentence

More than 165 million people in Europe live below the poverty line.
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:32 AM
 
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According to those standards, I've been to mexico several times, I guess I can now be an economic advisor to the Mexican government since I'm officially an expert having been there several times.
No I actually have spent one semester at an European college (TU Darmstadt). There academical standards didn't even compare with an average american college.
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:33 AM
 
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Other things one would have to consider is that for instance social mobility might mean something different, depending on what you want in life. Europeans tend to be less interested in piling up wealth, so that motivation is much reduced.
Another aspect is that most stuff is simply cheaper in the US, thus it is easier for poor people in the US to buy for instance electronics. Oftentimes in the US a given product costs the same in Dollars as it costs in Europe in Euros. Software for instance costs more in Euros than it does in Dollars, which is absurd.
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Old 01-01-2012, 11:33 AM
 
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Where do you get those number from? Which countries does your "Europe" include?
He or she probably thinks Europe is a country as well. Just like Africa is a country.
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