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Old 01-15-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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The US Constitution doesn't require it.
I wonder why?
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Wisconsin.

A SCOTUS case, Terry v. Ohio, in 1968 set up the detain on suspiscion allowance while a case, Hibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada, added the name requirement.
Please post a link to that. I have lived in CO for 31 years, and I've never heard of that. Certainly, I have violated that law many times over, when out walking w/o any ID whatsover. My kids went to school, and rode public buses, for years w/o ID. What a bunch of crooks we all are!
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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My great aunt, who lives in an assisted living/nursing home in a small town/rural area. She, and many of the other residents, quit driving years ago and don't need them for check writing, so they don't have them either. The center would have to rent a handicapped bus to drive the residents into another community to the DMV for them to get state ids, and then make them wait in line with their walkers. It's dumb.
How do they get to the voting booth? So what's different?
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:01 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Please post a link to that. I have lived in CO for 31 years, and I've never heard of that. Certainly, I have violated that law many times over, when out walking w/o any ID whatsover. My kids went to school, and rode public buses, for years w/o ID. What a bunch of crooks we all are!
So, since you have "never of it" and done no research on the subject, it just can't possibly be true. Hmmm, typical of your usual rebuttals.
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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A better question would be to ask why so many Republicans are in favor of this proposal. On the surface it seems as though they are once again doing everything possible to disenfranchise the poorest people in the nation. Although I do not think this is because they hate poor people, rather I think it is simply because Americans closer to the poverty line have different expectations from government. Poor people are tired of carrying the largest burden in the country. They want to see wealthier Americans carrying a fairer share of this burden. This does not sit well with those who contribute heaviest to the republican party.
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:13 AM
 
Location: the Beaver State
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It also does not require that women, minorities or to be at least 18 years old to vote. Do you want to change that?
Not sure where you're going with your argument, but women are allowed to vote under the 19th Amendment to the Constitution and the 26th Amendment to the Constitution sets the voting age to 18.

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Old 01-15-2012, 10:47 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Please post a link to that. I have lived in CO for 31 years, and I've never heard of that. Certainly, I have violated that law many times over, when out walking w/o any ID whatsover. My kids went to school, and rode public buses, for years w/o ID. What a bunch of crooks we all are!

Session Laws of Colorado 2001 - Chapter 261

Section 9.

Note that it was adopted prior to Sept. 11, 2001.
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:52 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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A better question would be to ask why so many Republicans are in favor of this proposal. On the surface it seems as though they are once again doing everything possible to disenfranchise the poorest people in the nation. Although I do not think this is because they hate poor people, rather I think it is simply because Americans closer to the poverty line have different expectations from government. Poor people are tired of carrying the largest burden in the country. They want to see wealthier Americans carrying a fairer share of this burden. This does not sit well with those who contribute heaviest to the republican party.


A better question might be why Democrats are opposed to voter ID laws. The "argument" that the poor or the elderly don't have ID is a crock of **** about 99.999999999999999999999999999% of the time. The "services from government" argument is the same.
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:23 AM
 
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A better question might be why Democrats are opposed to voter ID laws. The "argument" that the poor or the elderly don't have ID is a crock of **** about 99.999999999999999999999999999% of the time. The "services from government" argument is the same.
Because it is unconstitutional to require payment in order to vote. Requiring the purchase of an ID renders that requirement unconstitutional, though offering a free ID negates the violation. I personally don't care if you have to have ID to vote, as long as a free ID is available for people who don't need ID for any other purpose, and that ID is easily acquired in poor rural and urban districts. One way, I've read, for Republican administrations to limit poor and rural voting is to close DMV offices in those districts, forcing people to travel (during business- aka, working hours) to get an ID.

"But you need an ID to open a bank account!" Yeah, you do. Look how many people in the US don't have bank accounts. Like, millions. Seventeen million of them.

What do you think should happen to those organizations (all Republican, as far as I've seen) who deliberately attempt to fool the voting public (registered Democrats) by sending out flyers and/or making robocalls to announce the incorrect date for voting? That is election fraud on a large scale.

PS. I was being facetious earlier. I don't think I indicated that well in my post.
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:44 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Not sure where you're going with your argument, but women are allowed to vote under the 19th Amendment to the Constitution and the 26th Amendment to the Constitution sets the voting age to 18.
These are Amendments, or in others words after thoughts or lobbied for changes in the constitution. They are not part of the original constitution which indicates the writers thought they were not worth putting into writing. Similar to the minorities clause.
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