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Old 01-20-2012, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Who are the real conspirators:


"On February 22, 2006, an associate attorney in a Chicago-based firm whose partner served on the finance committee for then Sen. Barack Obama wrote a paper that advocated for the elimination of the U.S. Constitution's "natural-born" citizen requirement, calling the requirement "stupid" and asserting it was discriminatory, outdated and undemocratic."

 
Old 01-20-2012, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Who are the real conspirators:

"On February 22, 2006, an associate attorney in a Chicago-based firm whose partner served on the finance committee for then Sen. Barack Obama wrote a paper that advocated for the elimination of the U.S. Constitution's "natural-born" citizen requirement, calling the requirement "stupid" and asserting it was discriminatory, outdated and undemocratic."
And this is why you are called "conspiracy theorists."

 
Old 01-20-2012, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Stupid is as stupid does.

You people lost this stupid argument a long time a go, and even though I won't be voting Democrat (nor Republican) for POTUS this fall, I kinda hope Obama wins again just to drive the nutters even nuttier.

If we keep the nutters focused on something as stupid as this non-issue, they can do less damage elsewhere.

So knock yourselves out!
 
Old 01-20-2012, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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more conspirators..

"On February 28, 2008, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a bill to the Senate for consideration. That bill was known as "S. 2678: Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act." The bill was co-sponsored by Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), and Sen. Thomas Coburn (R-OK). The bill attempted to change Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States with reference to the requirements of being a "natural born citizen."

"On June 12, 2008, the Daily Kos posted the now-infamous image of Obama's first counterfeit birth document, the "Certification of Live Birth" along with a cover story."

"On July 22, 2008, a birth announcement was discovered in the Honolulu public library. The microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday Advertiser, "Births, Marriages, Death" section, dated August 13, 1961, read, "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4."

It does not list the hospital or the doctor in attendance. The problem is, Thelma Jones Lefforge owned and occupied the house at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway until she conveniently died 10 days before the birth announcement showed up.

The "Obamas" never lived there, as attested to by the neighbor. As a matter of fact, there is no evidence that they ever lived together anywhere, at any time."

"On August 21, 2008, the Annenberg Public Policy Center website, FactCheck.org, published a web page entitled, "Born in the U.S.A. -- The truth about Obama's birth certificate."

The article states that FactCheck.org staffers had seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate, which it wasn't. They further concluded that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship, while knowing the issue was eligibility, not citizenship -- which it doesn't."

"On August 27, 2008, the Democratic Party of Hawaii, the Democratic National Committee, the Chair of the Party convention, the Secretary of the Party, and probably many, many more, knowingly and wantonly defrauded the American electoral system and more than 300 million American citizens by filing fraudulent "Official Certification of Nomination" papers for Barack Obama and Joe Biden in all 50 states."
On October 23, 2008, in accordance with the existing Hawaiian Law Revised Statutes 11-113, and, as a result of mediation by Kevin B. Cronin, Senior Elections Officer, candidate Obama was officially approved for placement on the state’s ballot even though the state party's vetting authority refused to certify the legal qualifications of candidate Obama, because his nominating papers omitted the phrase, "...are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution," and read instead, "...legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the national Democratic Parties."


"On October 24, 2008, Hawaii's Republican Governor, Linda Lingle, a senior member of John McCain's election committee, placed Obama's birth certificate under seal, and instructed the state's Department of Health to make sure no one in the press obtains access to the original document under any circumstances."

"On April 3, 2009 Jack Maskell, the Legislative Attorney, American Law Division of the Congressional Research Service, wrote a memorandum, "Qualifications for the Office of the President of the United States and Legal Challenges to the Eligibility of a Candidate," that improperly states the origins, evolution and Supreme Court case-law related to the Constitution's "natural born" citizen requirement, but the document provides cover for members of the U. S. Congress, who refuse to address the issue of Obama's eligibility to serve as POTUS."

"On June 17, 2009, the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands which had stated on their website that the Hawaiian "Certification of Live Birth" (COLB) the Obama Campaign posted on the Internet as proof of Obama's eligibility would NOT be accepted for eligibility for some Hawaiian state government programs (page 1, page 2, page 3), changed the language of their website to read, "The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because they are official government records documenting an individual’s birth."

"On April 27, 2011, in the final act of this conspiracy, Team Obama posted an electronic image of a document that they claimed was Barack Obama's original, long-form birth certificate. It isn't.

The electronic image was produced and manipulated using Adobe software products and states right in the registrar's certification that it is an abstract of a text record -- right above the taunting "smiley face."

The Obama File
 
Old 01-20-2012, 04:05 PM
 
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If this judge accepts a copy of the forgery as good enough,.....
certified state issued COLB. full faith and credit clause of the US constitution. defend it claud.
 
Old 01-20-2012, 04:07 PM
 
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.... right above the taunting "smiley face."
i love this conspiracy.
 
Old 01-20-2012, 04:18 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why then are you so completely clueless on the history and the meaning of the Constitution?
You're the one who keeps exhibiting ignorance of history. I keep having to educate you complete with primary sources and documenting links.
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As we both know, the 14th Amendment's citizenship clause is simply declaratory of the law that was already in effect.
As of 1866 - the Civil Rights Act. That's nearly a century AFTER the drafting of the Constitution.
 
Old 01-20-2012, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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You're the one who keeps exhibiting ignorance of history.
And yet I win and you lose... every single time.

How do you reconcile that sad fact?

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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
As of 1866 - the Civil Rights Act. That's nearly a century AFTER the drafting of the Constitution.
So you're claiming now that statute can amend the Constitution?

LOL... That's a neat trick. No Constitutionalist woudl ever attempt it.

A Birther on the other hand...
 
Old 01-20-2012, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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Defendant obama's supporters are trying to claim the Georgia Judge has "no standing"
I know it. They are splitting their heads over at the FogBow. At another political forum I am on, they are all calling the judge a racist and bigot lol. Typical liberal progressive response. The judge did the right thing.
 
Old 01-20-2012, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
You're the one who keeps exhibiting ignorance of history. I keep having to educate you complete with primary sources and documenting links.
As of 1866 - the Civil Rights Act. That's nearly a century AFTER the drafting of the Constitution.
Get a clue.
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