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This is the defining social issue of our time. Liberals and conservatives are becoming ever-more polarized and hateful towards each other on this issue. Take gay rights out of the picture and many people on both sides would switch parties based on their other convictions. There are grassroots conservative groups that want to secede from the Union if gay marriage were to be legalized, and liberal groups that want to do the same if a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage were to ever be passed. Religion, whether or not believed in, was largely looked upon as a positive thing in the past but today religious people are becoming increasingly marginalized because of opposition to homosexuality. Like it or not, this is the issue that dominates our politics and is likely to get much uglier before it gets better.
Defining social issues include:
1. Poverty
2. War on drugs
3. Education reform
4. Abortion
5. Immigration
Gay rights does not make most American's list of biggest social issues.
No, Immigration is the biggest issue. It is transforming our nation, in ways which include creating a climate less accepting of homosexuality and effeminacy.
Bullying of Gay students (or students who can convincingly be accused of being Gay) is epidemic. Kids are dying, because of this. These attacks (frequently physical assaults) are being carried out by youths who are not Traditional Americans. Or, as a result of downward assimilation, the attacks are being carried out by youths who have been influenced by the homophobic newcomers.
We cannot expect to import vast numbers people from places where women and homosexuals are treated as non-humans, and expect to retain the climate of enlightenment which we were just beginning to enjoy. It took us centuries to throw off the anti-homosexual/anti-woman religious dogma imposed upon the European World by outsiders. Now, all that progress is being erased.
(I'm not of European descent, but I have sense enough to be grateful, and to acknowledge my European enculturation...and to want to defend the way of life and thought which has given me so much.)
Now, we're being swamped by people who have no interest in enlightened thinking. It is doubtful that many of these people are even mentally capable of becoming truly educated. They're only here for the goodies our wealthy society throws at them. They're here for the free health care, not for our freedoms of speech and thought.
1) care to elaborate on what you mean by 'traditional american'?
2) do you really think europeans were historically enlightened about race and sexual orientation any more than the rest of the world? how do you think christianity (which is a major force behind homophobia and historical racism in the u.s.) was brought here? by enslaved africans?
3) do you have any kind of stats that immigrants somehow have dibs on gay bullying?
4) there are immigrants who come over to get doctoral degrees and gay immigrants who come here to get out of their homophobic countries. is it really fair to call all immigrants incapable of becoming educated and of enlightened thinking?
I am in agreement with some other posters, namely that "gay" rights is a sexual issue and not an issue that most americans really care about. Being gay is a sexual preference and I dont think that holds a candle to any other issue on the table (number one being employment) during this election season.
Some folks really need to dispense with the word "gay bullying". Some people have morals and I dont think it constitutes "bullying" to state what they feel is right and wrong.
I am in agreement with some other posters, namely that "gay" rights is a sexual issue and not an issue that most americans really care about. Being gay is a sexual preference and I dont think that holds a candle to any other issue on the table (number one being employment) during this election season.
Some folks really need to dispense with the word "gay bullying". Some people have morals and I dont think it constitutes "bullying" to state what they feel is right and wrong.
It's important to some but not most. Of course since C-D in composed primarily of extremists of all shapes and sizes (and I include myself) it's to be expected that it can generate heated discussion. But, out in the real world it's just not anywhere near the forefront of most people's thoughts.
Abortion is a much more important issue than sexual deviants demanding social acceptance.
Who are these sexual deviants?
Geez, for a minute I thought you would say gays were, rather than the child molesting white losers that overwhelmingly reside in the local Republican voting trailer park (who are the REAL sexual deviants)
"Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? No, they were not all ashamed, neither were they embarrassed, therefore they will fall among them that fall: at the time that I vist them they will be cast down, saith the Lord."
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