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I was was talking about birth control, if woman is sick and need that pill I dont have a problem with it. I guess when people resort to begging, yea they lose all shame can't argue with you there!!!
If I want to buy a product with my own wages and my employer is dictating through government policy by proxy that I may not, is that communism?
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Originally Posted by Mr. Joshua
How much does birth control cost? 30 bucks a month? How about you pay that out of pocket. That way you can take power back.
That was easy wasn't it?
That same logic would make mincemeat of any insurance policy applicable to childhood immunizations and a whole host of other medical services.
It's a lot easier to design systems that serve the people using/ operating them and not pie in the sky ideologies. Birth control is a necessity for the majority of women of child bearing years. Loathing that she has the capacity to bear children when it doesn't apply to you DIRECTLY, although indirectly if you should ever create a situation where you're obliged to pay child support for the entire Duggar family, disqualifies your opinion.
It is not an employers 'right' or 'responsibility' to plan families or to dictate how any employee spends their wages (on insurance or open market services). OUT of the marital bed. OUT of other peoples checkbook. Get back to the Bible where they ever belonged. Being an employee is not consenting to abandon free will and civil rights.
If I want to buy a product with my own wages and my employer is dictating through government policy by proxy that I may not, is that communism?
That same logic would make mincemeat of any insurance policy applicable to childhood immunizations and a whole host of other medical services.
It's a lot easier to design systems that serve the people using/ operating them and not pie in the sky ideologies. Birth control is a necessity for the majority of women of child bearing years. Loathing that she has the capacity to bear children when it doesn't apply to you DIRECTLY, although indirectly if you should ever create a situation where you're obliged to pay child support for the entire Duggar family, disqualifies your opinion.
It is not an employers 'right' or 'responsibility' to plan families or to dictate how any employee spends their wages (on insurance or open market services). OUT of the marital bed. OUT of other peoples checkbook. Get back to the Bible where they ever belonged. Being an employee is not consenting to abandon free will and civil rights.
The war on women is real and is in full force in backward republican southern states right now.
Only a self hating woman would now even consider voting Republican.
Yes and no. And don't blame this all on the south because retardation is not specific to any region. It's distributed in higher concentrations in red states which is not a condition etched in stone. Neither is the political position on any issue in the camp of "red". If you do the same thing for thousands of years and persist in poor results, it might be the thing you're doing.
A self respecting true conservative woman would be calling these jokers to task for their abysmal behavior in plain sight. They have nothing but contempt for their female constituency and there's no denying it. Palin, Cain & Newt... family values? Come on, folks!
A self respecting true liberal woman would be calling religious and politicians to task for their abysmal behavior in plain sight. And they are.
Blaming the silence of self respecting conservative women on self respecting liberal women doesn't cut it with me. Would she speak as Abigail Adams did, she just might save the integrity of the conservative party. Instead, there are cartoons like Palin, Coulter, Bachman, Kern et al making a mockery of womanhood and conservativism alike.
Yes and no. And don't blame this all on the south because retardation is not specific to any region. It's distributed in higher concentrations in red states which is not a condition etched in stone. Neither is the political position on any issue in the camp of "red". If you do the same thing for thousands of years and persist in poor results, it might be the thing you're doing.
A self respecting true conservative woman would be calling these jokers to task for their abysmal behavior in plain sight. They have nothing but contempt for their female constituency and there's no denying it. Palin, Cain & Newt... family values? Come on, folks!
A self respecting true liberal woman would be calling religious and politicians to task for their abysmal behavior in plain sight. And they are.
Blaming the silence of self respecting conservative women on self respecting liberal women doesn't cut it with me. Would she speak as Abigail Adams did, she just might save the integrity of the conservative party. Instead, there are cartoons like Palin, Coulter, Bachman, Kern et al making a mockery of womanhood and conservativism alike.
I've often wondered why these women have been able to remain in forefront and the only reason I can think of is that they honestly do represent the current conservative woman. Monica Crowley is another example of the lunacy that comprises the female whackadoodles that has influence over the conservative woman.
Even women who are actually covered by insurance for birth control skip days of taking their pills because of 20 dollar co-pays.
In addition, the people who would be subject to this edict from the Catholic Church actually work at the hospital. What percentage of hospital workers do you think are going to be too destitute to pay for a pill that costs, at the most, 2 dollars/day?
My guess would be about 0%. What's your guess?
By virtue of taking employment from a not for profit institution, they're already taking a considerable loss in potential salary to support a mission statement of charity. They already paid at the office so-to-speak.
Beyond that point of consent, hobbling them additionally by obstructing access to insurance coverage they want and need to satisfy universal compliance with the catechism is egregious. The Church has every right to restrict employment only to catholics in full compliance with the catechism. It does not have the right to hire/ bait others of another faith and wield them into compliance with the catechism through secular writ.
It also doesn't have the right to alter medical treatments on catechism compliance basis when it is claiming to serve ALL. This means if an emergency room patient needs to take her birth control pills and the Dr, through imposed terms and conditions of employment, overrides this for religious objections under pretense of medical objections, he and his employer are flat out wrong. Especially if it would result in an abortion! So where's the line folks? Once they concoct these slippery slopes they're only going to steadily hijack secular management until it's forced into a theocratic dictatorship by proxy. Please review the cogent arguments of Barry Goldwater so very long ago. If they want purist ideology upheld, they will have to hire only catholics and serve only catholics in their catholic gated community. And the small c is not a typo.
I've already heard a considerable amount of disdain from Presbyterians locally already. They're justifiably angry. I'm Catholic and agree with them.
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So where's the line folks? Once they concoct these slippery slopes they're only going to steadily hijack secular management until it's forced into a theocratic dictatorship by proxy. Please review the cogent arguments of Barry Goldwater so very long ago. If they want purist ideology upheld, they will have to hire only catholics and serve only catholics in their catholic gated community. And the small c is not a typo.
