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Old 09-25-2007, 07:41 PM
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So you would be okay with a child who was in agonizing pain unable to receive medical or dental care because of the poor choices of his or her parents? .... interesting logic there.

The 'personal responsibility' argument doesn't apply to toddlers you know.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:42 PM
 
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So you would be okay with a child who was in agonizing pain unable to receive medical or dental care because of the poor choices of his or her parents? .... interesting logic there.
We both know that that doesn't happen in this country. Hasn't in a long, long time.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:56 PM
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No, but if certain people posting on this thread got their way, it would.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:01 PM
 
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No, but if certain people posting on this thread got their way, it would.
I have not seen that on this thread.

I think people resent having MORE of their money taken and redistributed to lower wage earners. Enough is enough.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:07 PM
 
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We both know that that doesn't happen in this country. Hasn't in a long, long time.
But should people be choosing between getting adequate healthcare for their kids and paying rent? That doesn't seem fair to the kid, to have their health subject to their parents' economic decisions.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:40 PM
 
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But should people be choosing between getting adequate healthcare for their kids and paying rent? That doesn't seem fair to the kid, to have their health subject to their parents' economic decisions.

Public emergency rooms are legally prohibited from turning sick patients away. This unreimbursed cost gets passed on to taxpayers and the medically insured.

We can't make everything 100 percent equal for every person in America, nor should we. This is not pre-school. What would be my motivation to work 80-plus hours a week at a high-pressure job if every person in America received the same, exact services, treatment, benefits, and pay that I do -- no matter what their occupation?
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:52 PM
 
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One of the first things everyone learns is that life is not fair.

"Entitled" to health care? That's an interesting word. People aren't "entitled" to anything.

What a blowhard. We're not talking about your personal philosophy of life. We're talking about the LAW. STATUTORY, LEGAL ENTITLEMENTS. Get it? They are a product of the legislature and elections and the political system. It's too bad if you don't like it. It's the law. Get more of your guys into the legislature and change the law.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Why the heck should they complain about it? It's FREE!!! They pay zero to minimal co-pays for ER visits, doctor visits, and prescription drugs. My hard earned money goes to pay for all of this wonderful FREE health care and in the meantime, my co-pay for a brand-name medicine is $50. I pay $150 for an ER visit. This is after I pay monthly insurance premiums.

Health care is not free. SOMEONE has to pay for it. And when there are fewer someones paying for health care and more someones taking advantage of the FREE health care, something has to give.

Hey, moneybags, you're STILL not paying the full boat. Your employer is paying for some of it and probably your state is paying for some of it. Hopefully you're the member of some group plan, which knocks the risk down to the insurer even more. Tell us how easy it is for you make a claim, like if you injure your neck in an auto accident. Etc. Etc.
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Old 09-25-2007, 09:21 PM
 
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What a blowhard. We're not talking about your personal philosophy of life. We're talking about the LAW. STATUTORY, LEGAL ENTITLEMENTS. Get it? They are a product of the legislature and elections and the political system. It's too bad if you don't like it. It's the law. Get more of your guys into the legislature and change the law.
This is a message board, and people come here to express their opinions. Do I like the current system? NO! So, I come here to express my opinion on the issue at hand.

What are you referring to, exactly, when you say "change the law"? Rest assured, I do and will continue to do everything in my power to keep as much of my hard-earned money for my family as possible.

Blowhard? I don't think so. The fact that my opinion differs from yours does not give you the right to call names. Too bad if YOU don't like it.
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Old 09-25-2007, 09:26 PM
 
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Hey, moneybags, you're STILL not paying the full boat. Your employer is paying for some of it and probably your state is paying for some of it. Hopefully you're the member of some group plan, which knocks the risk down to the insurer even more. Tell us how easy it is for you make a claim, like if you injure your neck in an auto accident. Etc. Etc.
That's right, Park Twain, and my employer would not be paying for ANY of it if I weren't working!! Guess what??? My employer doesn't pay a RED CENT for people that are are not in his employ. What a strange concept. As far as calling me "moneybags," we work hard and live on a strict budget. We go without LOTS of things.

As far as the last part of your quote, what are you even going on about? Did I miss something?
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