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View Poll Results: Do you support or oppose ObamaCare?
I support ObamaCare. 74 40.88%
I oppose ObamaCare. 107 59.12%
Voters: 181. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-27-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Since the Supreme Court is currently hearing the ObamaCare case, I wanted to see how everyone on the forum feels about the law.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Considering the black and white options you provided, I went with the more logical one: Yes. As there is more to like about it, than dislike.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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I support healthcare reform. I do not support Obamacare.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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there is more to like about it, than dislike.
That's completely nuts. The individual mandate, which is the foundation of the entire monstrosity, is a flagrant overstepping of the government's Constitutional authority. It's the most abusive law passed in decades.

Considering that you can't have the rest of it without the mandate, there's NOTHING to like about this law. It's not what the right wanted. It's not what the left wanted - NOBODY wanted this piece of crap. They had to use every parlor trick and bribe in the book to get it passed, and it passed with votes from only one party!

Anybody who actually thinks that this is a good law is outright insane.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:44 PM
 
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No. I support getting government out of healthcare all together and allowing the market to do its job. If it was all privatized the companies offering cheaper health insurance would run the higher priced ones out of business with the competition government only helps the big companies stay in business by sticking its nose in this.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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That's completely nuts. The individual mandate, which is the foundation of the entire monstrosity, is a flagrant overstepping of the government's Constitutional authority. It's the most abusive law passed in decades.
Is it? Or, the utopian model y'all believe in, also magically creates $1 trillion/year that the government spends on health care.

But, you hit the one problem I have with Obama Care. I propose replacing it with a tax, like Medicare.

What is insanity? Sticking the collective head in the sand and instead of noticing doubling of insurance costs in 8-9 years (much less doing something about it), many here are willing to go back to the mode, exposing the rear end and demanding from the insurance companies... keep it going, I was liking it before, and we apologize for the interruption and inconvenience Obamacare brought to you nice people.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Is it? Or, the utopian model y'all believe in, also magically creates $1 trillion/year that the government spends on health care.
Who said we believe in the current model in its entirety?

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But, you hit the one problem I have with Obama Care. I propose replacing it with a tax, like Medicare.
Do you realize how much Medicare taxes would have to go up to cover everyone?

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What is insanity? Sticking the collective head in the sand and instead of noticing doubling of insurance costs in 8-9 years (much less doing something about it), many here are willing to go back to the mode, exposing the rear end and demanding from the insurance companies... keep it going, I was liking it before, and we apologize for the interruption and inconvenience Obamacare brought to you nice people.
ObamaCare increased insurance costs even more.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Who said we believe in the current model in its entirety?
What were "you" doing about it?

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Do you realize how much Medicare taxes would have to go up to cover everyone?
Shouldn't it be at least just enough to cover ALL government spending?

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ObamaCare increased insurance costs even more.
Give me numbers, so I can prove your lies.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I support healthcare reform. I do not support Obamacare.
This.

Though I would add that my support for healthcare reform is mainly on the state level.

Utah did healthcare reform a few years ago.

Massachusetts did as well. Even though it included an individual mandate, if that's what the people of MA want (and polls show that most MA residents support the MA healthcare reform), that's fine with me. Since I don't live in MA, I don't see it as any of my business.

The California Legislature passed a single payer system in 2006 and 2008, though it was struck down by then Governor Schwarzenegger both times. If that's what California wants, that's fine with me, though I certainly don't want that in my state.
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Old 03-27-2012, 01:55 PM
 
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Oh hell no...
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