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Old 04-17-2012, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Ok, eliminate Section 8 assistance.

Now what? Where do those people live? Where do you think they'll go?
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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They accept them b/c the town that let the developer build the complex HAD to provide for so much low-income housing in the complex.

If you're talking about rentals, that's a different issue. Anyone can get their rental approved for section 8...unless there is something in the bylaws of the home owner's association of the complex that won't allow it.

Or it could be a straight up crap building in a crap town where the landlord just wants rent and could give a crap who he/she gets rent from.

In my experience? It doesn't matter. You get a few section 8's in...the entire complex is screwed.

This is why I moved out of my townhouse. The vouchers that went out to a bunch of folks who got their New Brunswick, NJ version of Cabrini Greens knocked down...they moved in to my very nice and quiet development.

Gaggles of hoodlums hanging out on the corners of the development all night long. Breaks ins - to cars/homes...went way up - from zero. Had to put a lock on the playground and b-ball and tennis courts b/c they were being used as ash trays and 20-30 something gangsters wouldn't give the courts up for the kids (even the township kids who had designated PRACTICE time on the court). The tennis courts were demolished b/c apparently guys right out of jail tried to turn them in to bball courts, by ripping the nets down and using garbage cans on either end of the court as "goals". F'ing trash.

We moved. Quickly.

Section 8's come with a stigma that is well deserved. The few who don't fit the stigma, well, the rest ruined it for them.

I will NEVER rent to a section 8.
Yep, this is exactly what happens every time.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Cool heh...

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Ah, nothing like the smell of racism in the morning with a cup of coffee.
mmm...so delightful isn't it. I like it with the ignorant sprinkles and a side of uneducated.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Let them camp down by the river without fresh water or sanitation. The disease will thin the herd and teach the rest to never be poor.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:01 AM
 
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Ok, eliminate Section 8 assistance.

Now what? Where do those people live? Where do you think they'll go?

Apparently, making people homeless will stop crime and urban blight. Last time I checked, people commit more crime when they are in desperate need. It's apparently better to have homeless people litter the streets of our cities.

Who said the poor deserve a place to live and running water? Those damn democrats. Darn liberals wanting to give everybody an equal chance. If you don't have money, you don't deserve one.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Yeah, like the liberals that coined the phrase: "Liberty and Justice for All".
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:33 AM
 
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I hope Mitt Romney is elected and abolishes HUD. Section 8 is an awful program and needs to be dismantled. Nice areas are turning into slums because of Section 8 residents not to mention crime and school quality deteriorates.

Of course Obama made things worse.

James Bovard: Raising Hell in Subsidized Housing - WSJ.com
From a study released this month by that right wing, crazy racist Urban Institute ---

"A neighborhood with 6 to 14 relocated households per 1,000 households, on average, had a violent crime rate 11 percent higher in Atlanta and 13 percent higher in Chicago than it would have had with no relocated households. Violent crime rates in neighborhoods with more than 14 relocated households per 1,000 families were 21 percent higher, on average, than they would have been with no relocated households, other things being equal."

Study Estimates Public Housing Transformation's Effect on Crime in Atlanta and Chicago, Advancing Understanding of Successes and Challenges
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Ok, eliminate Section 8 assistance.

Now what? Where do those people live? Where do you think they'll go?
As if they care.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:50 AM
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Location: MA/NH
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If the recipient isn't handicapped or elderly, there should be a time limit to Section 8. If the recipient isn't handicapped or elderly, then the value of the voucher should diminish every year until it becomes obsolete. Section 8 should help a poor person get an apartment, and in the beginning, having the rent subsidy gives them time to get their life in order, but eventually they need to learn how to afford it on their own.

There are more people who are qualified to apply for a Section 8 voucher than those who actually try to get one. And where the racial factor comes in is that blacks and Hispanic try to maximize on what they can get from our government. I would say that of the Asians I've known over the years, they would consider it extremely shameful to be on Section 8 housing or welfare. And it's important to them to not bring dishonor to their family name. And you won't find too many Asians collecting unemployment benefits for several reasons, first because they are known to be hard workers so they don't get fired. And secondly, if they do get laid off, they find work right away because they are willing to work any job right away in order to keep the income stream going. And of Chinese immigrants in particular, most have 1-1/2 to two jobs going at once. The 1/2 meaning it's a part time job rather than a full 40 hour a week job.
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Old 04-17-2012, 06:58 AM
 
Location: DFW
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As A RE Agent I do see it destroy neighborhoods. Let 1 apartment complex go section 8 and it drives out the good tenants. Crime increases and other nearby complex must then go section 8 to get tenants, then on and on.

Crime increases, schools go down, the cost of your home goes down and the tax paying citizen then moves out of the area.

It is a cancer that does destroys neighborhoods. Just let it happen to your home and neighborhood and see how you like the affects.

That is reality.
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