Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
It's a free market. It will adjust. Want a big house on open land? Go buy some.
You just admitted that there is plenty of sprawl. Why are you complaining? You said you're done with the new urbanism. Don't buy an urban dwelling.
Should you want cheap housing, then leave California. Unless you're in a bad area, I don't think cheap housing really exists.
I don't think that your whining on the internet is going to change anything. Why are you all worked up here. Put away your emotions.
It's a free market, you say? What if I want - it's all I can afford - a tiny house on a postage-stamp lot? Where in California can I find such a house for sale?
That is what renting a car is for, as well as having money to fly to different areas. If a car isn't needed for daily use then why have one?
Well, yeah, we should all have money to fly to different areas. Kind of expensive for a family of four, though. I'm getting to be afraid to be on the road with these people who only drive once in a blue moon! They're dangerous!
I think living in a city without the need for a vehicle is liberating.
Really? I've heard this opinion before and I've always found it kinda strange. In what way is it liberating? I could understand why it might make financial sense. If you live in an urban area with good public transport and not much parking then I could understand why you may not need to own a car. But your somewhat limiting your transportation options by not owning a car. You have to become dependent on public transport schedules, or friends who have cars. I would definitely say that having a car is much more liberating transportation wise.
The tube trains are constantly running one after another. You don't wait more than 2 minutes for the next train. The system is so complex you have tube stations all over the city. In addition you have National Rail service that connects high speed trains all over the country.
I found it WONDERFUL yet I hate owning a car. I hate gas stations, car insurance, traffic jams, repairs. Hate it all!
The people who are builders know what Americans want and completely understand the American lifestyle.
No one wants to live in the tenements of 100 years ago. They all know that. Builders will always build what people can afford or what they aspire to have.
Suburban living is becoming increasingly more non-functional and just plain harder to live in than it was 50 years ago. Moving out to the burbs may have been wonderful for Grandpa, but it seems a lot of his grandkids don't think so now, or there wouldn't be any new urban development going on. The advantages of living in a city must be pretty good, as cities are growing while the rural life is fading away and the so many suburbs are becoming the 21st century slums and beds of crime.`
Times change, and people change with them. Don't expect what happened last century will continue on unchanged. It will not. The people who lived in the 19th century did not live primitive lives; they had their conveniences, and they had their living problems just as we do now. That is not ever going to change.
For those who don't like the urban life, there's still plenty of land available. More now than 100 years ago, before the mass exodus from the country into the cities. The land is still there; all one has to do is reclaim it from mother nature again.
Last edited by banjomike; 04-06-2013 at 01:20 AM..
Cities are actually very efficient. If humans want to run around with billions of people, then we at least have to concentrate ourselves into cities. Plus, people in cities are generally healthier than their suburban counterparts. And, for the record, 100K is far from "rich", depending on where your live.
This environment damage information - no one cares. I am a Bible believer, and this Earth is going up in flames one day. So until then I'm going to live in a suburban, cheap home close to affordable and accessible big box centers and malls and large churches. Yes that's right! I said it! Get over it! I can't stand downtown shopping if there is a parking cost involved. And I am also not interested in the beauty of downtown developments or the liberal belief that cookie cutter homes are ugly. Because I think hills covered in homes are beautiful. It's peaceful and the sound of the freeway is relaxing!
Lastly, if tearing out nature for a new tax-generating business park or college or some sort of business comes up, please take your "save the environment" elsewhere. Europe perhaps?
Holy Christ on a Crutch! People actually think this way? Let's destroy the environment because the Apocalypse is just around the corner? Any minute now.
Really? I've heard this opinion before and I've always found it kinda strange. In what way is it liberating? I could understand why it might make financial sense. If you live in an urban area with good public transport and not much parking then I could understand why you may not need to own a car. But your somewhat limiting your transportation options by not owning a car. You have to become dependent on public transport schedules, or friends who have cars. I would definitely say that having a car is much more liberating transportation wise.
It makes financial sense and is healthy. If I could walk, bike, or take public transport to get where I need to go, that would eliminate a lot stress and danger in my life.
It's liberating if you never want to leave the concrete jungle!
Renting a car is an option. Taking a plane or a train is also an option.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
