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Self defense is when someone attacks you and you didn't start the freaking fight. Zimmerman instigates this, then claims self defense?
Stop....just stop....
The "starting the fight" issue is really being abused here.
Who was the AGGRESSOR....
If Trayvon Martin ambushed him then he had an awful lapse of judgment. If Trayvon Martin attacked him, PREEMPTIVELY, he initiated violence and he was WRONG. Because the FACT is Zimmerman was, at that point, only perceived as a threat.
And we know how the "perception" role goes in America.....perception is only wrong when it's directed at one type of person, right?
One thing for sure lawyers are all salivating and I'm sure will have plenty of cameramen on hand when the not guilty verdict comes and the riots ensue. Like hogs to the trough.
The "starting the fight" issue is really being abused here.
Who was the AGGRESSOR....
If Trayvon Martin ambushed him then he had an awful lapse of judgment. If Trayvon Martin attacked him, PREEMPTIVELY, he initiated violence and he was WRONG. Because the FACT is Zimmerman was, at that point, only perceived as a threat.
And we know how the "perception" role goes in America.....perception is only wrong when it's directed at one type of person, right?
It's hard to believe that Martin could have perceived Zimmerman as a threat. If he did...he could have simply walked in his house, closed the door and called 911. It seems pretty clear that he was angry that someone was keeping an eye on him and he went out to assault Zimmerman.
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RAise your hand if you think he would not have been arrested for murder if there was no public outcry. I'm with toyman, I think Zimmerman was angry and initiated the fight. WAit, I have no clue 'cuz I wasn't there. It's easy to talk about it like we were there, though. Once the lawyers sink their teeth in this, we'll get some clarity, one way or the other. (I hope.)
Probably not much because I highly doubt he'll walk away from this case without a criminal conviction of some sort; I just don't see it resulting in an all or nothing situation.
Will he be convicted of 2nd degree murder? Probably not.
Will he plead guilty to a lesser charge of manslaughter or involuntary manslaughter? Most likely, yes.
I highly doubt this case will even make it to trial.
Hopefully Zimmerman will do better, he certainly deserves it after the way he's been treated by the media. Maybe NBC will become ZBC. We can only hope...
Well if he is exonorated like Jewell, to that I will agree. I just don't see how he can get a fair trial by a jury.
Zimmerman has definitely been treated poorly but this case is different than Jewell's as there is no doubt he killed Trayvon. Now figuring out the defining moments and where to split the hairs to decide if it was murder or self defense I think is going to take the wisdom of Solomon.
It's hard to believe that Martin could have perceived Zimmerman as a threat. If he did...he could have simply walked in his house, closed the door and called 911. It seems pretty clear that he was angry that someone was keeping an eye on him and he went out to assault Zimmerman.
Yea but the fact of the matter is this....whetherhe perceived Zimmerman was a threat or not is irrelevant. If it's true that Martin attacked Zimmerman initially, then he perceived him as a threat. Perception doesn't validate anything. Martin made a mistake that cost him his life. Of course, if this is what actually transpired.
And if he did it because he was annoyed and on his alpha male stuff....that just makes it a very, very stupid mistake.
It's hard to believe that Martin could have perceived Zimmerman as a threat. If he did...he could have simply walked in his house, closed the door and called 911. It seems pretty clear that he was angry that someone was keeping an eye on him and he went out to assault Zimmerman.
This is why I maintain he was up to no good. His reaction far exceeded what a normal person would do if the situation went down as Sharpton and others claim. His little potential burglary spree during his two week suspension was halted, he had been identified. He couldn't steal and escape unnoticed two weeks later with no one noticing.
RAise your hand if you think he would not have been arrested for murder if there was no public outcry.
Nope, I think his arrest was a political move to placate the mobs and enhance the career of the prosecutor. I suspect the trial will make that clear, especially as the evidence comes out. Like you said, there would have been no trial without the lynch mobs.
I believe that when we see more of the evidence, the original decision from the State Attorny General's not to arrest Z due to lack of evidence of wrong doing will be proven correct. Not, of course, before the state wastes a pile of money trying to build a case when they don't have a leg to stand on.
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