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Murder and theft to start with. The list of laws that are influenced by religious ideas is very long. Shall I continue?
Find me one that doesn't have a viable secular purpose. (And you might be able to, some still exist. When they've been tested in court, they've been found unconstitutional every time.)
Fiyero: We have laws to protect ALL citizens. Bullying, murder, etc. are applicable to ALL citizens. When you start providing special laws for gays or other protected special interest groups then you have a problem. Why don't we enforce the laws when crimes are committed? Bullying is wrong no matter who is involved. No special "rights"!!!
So you think that homosexuals gaining the same rights as you have somehow makes them "special"?
Why not? If the majority of people voted to enact such a law - then it is the law. And why are you making assumptions about what I believe?
Because we're not a direct democracy. The majority cannot vote to take away the rights of the minority. No true direct democracy that I'm aware of has ever existed. Even Athens wasn't a true democracy and they invented it.
You have failed to establish why homosexual marriage is a "civil right".
There are 1,500+ posts in this thread, alone, and it, like the milky way galaxy, is just one of billions like it on this very board. That's been established over and over again, you just don't like the answer.
Find me one that doesn't have a viable secular purpose. (And you might be able to, some still exist. When they've been tested in court, they've been found unconstitutional every time.)
What secular purposes do laws against murder and theft serve? After all, secular law allows for theft(confiscation of earned money) and murder(execution of inmates). How can you say that prohibitions against murder and theft do not have religious origins.
Observant Muslims shouldn't apply for jobs as bacon tasters. That's not bigotry.
you just want to force a Muslim who has been a taste tester for lamb, to suddenly taste bacon, just because you want him to.
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA
Likewise, city clerks who find themselves unable to cope with their religious hang-ups have a completely misconstrued idea of their relative importance. Public servants are not there to make the rules, they're there to carry them out.
you are trying to dramatically fundamentally alter marriage and telling everyone they must except it, or be insulted, maligned, fired from their job, etc... all because gays want to force everyone to endorse their lifestyle choice.
You have failed to establish why homosexual marriage is a "civil right".
Because the Supreme Court said marriage is a fundamental civil right, and cannot be denied on the basis of a protected class.
Sex is a protected class. Allowing a man to marry a woman, but not a man, solely because he's a man, is discrimination under US law.
Why is this so hard for you all to grasp. Why are you even participating in this discussion? It's obvious you have no intention of your views even slightly budging, and it's obvious you're not interested in educating yourself on why your views are wrong.
What you consider indecent others do not. You do not get to make that assessment.
When animals learn to communicate and give informed consent, then I will approve of bestiality, even though it personally repulses me. When that happens, do get back to me.
what I said was that if this generation is for every other debauchery the next generation will be in favor of bestiality.
remember the way you feel about bestiality your great grand parents felt about homosexuality.
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