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Old 05-14-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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but when they were hired there was nothing in the job against they're religion.
So? I guess that's the chance they took.

 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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So - you have abdicated to me? That is a weakling arguement - that you percieve me as unwilling to even consider being persuaded to your point of view. What if I am open to doing so? You have made up your mind that I am not worth debating with - that pretty much sums up the amount of worth you give your own argument - ZERO!
I'm not perceiving anything. Among over 1500 posts, you've proven you are unwilling to consider anything anyone else who doesn't support your views says.

This isn't speculation. I know you're not open to doing so. You've shown us that in this thread quite emphatically.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:45 PM
 
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Which current laws are influenced by religious ideas?
blue laws in Bergen County
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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So you think that homosexuals gaining the same rights as you have somehow makes them "special"?
Do you think that people who steal have a right to do so?
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:46 PM
 
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Then I suggest you avoid becoming a government bureaucrat.



Nope. Just fire you for dereliction of duty.
still a bigot. the duty wasn't there when they got the job.

what you did was change the job description on them.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Because we're not a direct democracy. The majority cannot vote to take away the rights of the minority. No true direct democracy that I'm aware of has ever existed. Even Athens wasn't a true democracy and they invented it.
Yes - we are not a direct democracy - we are a Republic. However, certain states (like California) have enacted direct democracy protocols(such as initiative, referendum, and recall). State law trumps federal law unless the Constitution specifically provides for otherwise. Sorry if you don't like our system of government. You are free to amend it.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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No matter how many times you people keep lying, doesn't make it true. The Supreme Court declared it a right. Therefore, under our government, it is no matter how much you disagree or claim it isn't.
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No matter how many times you people keep lying, doesn't make it true. The Supreme Court declared it a right based on procreation. Therefore, under our government, it (2 members of the same sex "marrying") isn't no matter how much you disagree or claim it is.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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So ANY law that can get support of 50%+1 of the population ought be considered valid and legitimate?

Reenact slavery? Mandate death to this or that race? How about imprisoning people for adultery?
Any legally adopted law is ... the law ... until it's ruled invalid by a court, whether or not you think it's valid and legitimate.

Though some ssm supporters persist in claiming ssm Is a 'right,' the political, social, and legal status in most states and the feds is, not a right.
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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So ANY law that can get support of 50%+1 of the population ought be considered valid and legitimate?

Reenact slavery? Mandate death to this or that race? How about imprisoning people for adultery?
Can you cite polls that show that any current majority supports any of the extreme positions you just cited?

And would you care to deny that you would be in favor of a direct democratic vote that decided homosexual marriage is legal?
 
Old 05-14-2012, 05:51 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Do you think that people who steal have a right to do so?

That is quite the non sequitur to the post you quoted...

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