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Old 05-18-2012, 06:58 AM
 
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Yes...gays are just like everyone else and want to lead normal American lives.


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Old 05-18-2012, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Murika
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I simply gave you an sample answer. You could try something like that when you defend homosexuality. If would make you look less soft and defensive.
Hm, didn't look like an answer to me. Looked like an attempt at deceit.

Alas, you obviously agree with that statement. Good to know.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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And whatever the "other" side is, its not going to win anyone over by calling people immoral and sickening drug-addicted pedophiles. Hater and bigot are rather mild terms in comparison.
The other side is simply standing their ground and defending the status quo, they are not trying to change anything. You are the one trying to build some kind of 'movement' to change things, and you are the one who needs to win people over. However, your approach does nothing but push people away from your side.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Hm, didn't look like an answer to me. Looked like an attempt at deceit.

Alas, you obviously agree with that statement. Good to know.
I did not comment on your statement.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Murika
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I did not comment on your statement.
Yawn. So not only are you deceitful, have a lax interpretation of "honesty," and justify your bigotry with your interpretation of "morality," but you also have nothing intelligent to say?

Wow.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:10 AM
 
Location: "Chicago"
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You are the one trying to build some kind of 'movement' to change things, and you are the one who needs to win people over. However, your approach does nothing but push people away from your side.
Me, personally, or gays in general? I don't have an agenda. I'm only posting because I find the name-calling on here most offensive. WHY is it that they can call me a sickening deviant and drug-abusing pedophile but I'm not allowed to respond? Should I just smile and say nothing? Why do you think this discussion should be one-way?

Why don't you harp on those who have used the REAL offensive terms in this thread? THOSE are the ones who are pushing anyone who might still be on the fence (any fence) away from their side, whatever that side may be.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:14 AM
 
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Does calling stealing immoral, make you a bigot against thieves? No, of course not.
The difference however is that we can adumbrate our reasoning as to why we consider thievery to be immoral. We can go into long discussions about who it hurts, how and why we think hurting people in this way is immoral. For example I doubt we could get through such a discussion without discussing the concept of "consent" and how if you steal from someone it is taking their possessions without their "consent".

With homosexuality we are talking about the consensual acts between consensual people which in no way harm... impinge upon the rights of... or affect anyone else. To label it immoral therefore is to do so without basis and to attack something without basis is, for me, bigotry. Hatred for hatred sake, with no basis in argument, evidence, data or reasoning.

If you are concerned with morality I would be concerned more with your quoting half a persons post in order to make it look like they were saying something they absolutely were not. That is a blatant act of dishonest that one should be ashamed to perform and yet here today we saw it performed almost with pride. For shame.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yawn. So not only are you deceitful, have a lax interpretation of "honesty," and justify your bigotry with your interpretation of "morality," but you also have nothing intelligent to say?

Wow.
It never ends.......

Well, thanks for proving my point.

People use anger (involuntarily) to conceal the weakness of their position. This is what you and the rest of the homosexual coalition is doing here.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Right there it shows that the person who started this thread is a hetro-phobic basher. They use the word "infested" as if people who do not like the gay agenda- or find the homo-sexual act unpleasant and not to be encourages socially. People have equal rights- Gays are protected and now a privledged class...BUT they are not satisfied with their new found rights and freedoms...They don't just want equality- they seem to be heading towards an agenda of dominance.
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Old 05-18-2012, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Right there it shows that the person who started this thread is a hetro-phobic basher. They use the word "infested" as if people who do not like the gay agenda- or find the homo-sexual act unpleasant and not to be encourages socially. People have equal rights- Gays are protected and now a privledged class...BUT they are not satisfied with their new found rights and freedoms...They don't just want equality- they seem to be heading towards an agenda of dominance.
Yes, the word "infested" tends to suggest they consider heterosexuals as some kind of vermin.
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