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Old 05-28-2012, 11:08 PM
 
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Seriously? He had to pick Memorial Day weekend for this?

"The TV host said: 'I think it is very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen without invoking valor, without invoking the words "heroes".
'I feel... uncomfortable, about the word because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war.'"

Granted he backpedaled but Memorial Day weekend isn't the time for this.

Read more: Chris Hayes: Outrage as TV host says he is 'uncomfortable' calling fallen soldiers 'heroes' | Mail Online
I think what is disturbing is that he said anything at all if he feels uncomfortable but not unconfortable about using this day to promote his political views.I could careless about such people's opinions; reporters or not.
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:39 PM
 
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Well look who came to his senses and apologized-ish.

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Hayes -- who during his Sunday show admitted his concerns might not be justified, while acknowledging there are definite individual examples of heroism -- released a statement later Monday saying he is "deeply sorry" for the gaffe.

"As many have rightly pointed out, it's very easy for me, a TV host, to opine about the people who fight our wars, having never dodged a bullet or guarded a post or walked a mile in their boots. Of course, that is true of the overwhelming majority of our nation's citizens as a whole," he said.

Read more: MSNBC host Hayes apologizes for saying he is 'uncomfortable' calling fallen soldiers heroes - NYPOST.com

MSNBC host Hayes apologizes for saying he is 'uncomfortable' calling fallen soldiers heroes - NYPOST.com
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:53 PM
 
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Why is her son a hero?. He was getting paid to be a soldier, that was is job. Perhaps he became a soldier to go to war. if soldiers go to war and come back after killing, enemies, woman and children, for what ever reason. is an ocasion to celebrate. but if they get kill, people act like if they were inocent, and were taken advantage of them. they went to another country and invaded that country, and that country is in wrost shape than before. its not like if they where protecting america from invation or something. And get ready couse we might invade iran with the same pretext we use to invade irak.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:38 AM
 
Location: California
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We honor those who deserve honoring and it's a day to honor those in the military. It doesn't mean everyone in uniform is a hero, that's just the kind of hyperbole we are all so fond of.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Honestly...who cares about the opinion of another third-rate talking head on BSNBC? I understand that they feel some need to "hire the handicapped"...but that doesn't mean that anyone has to watch them.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Originally Posted by helenejen View Post
Seriously? He had to pick Memorial Day weekend for this?

"The TV host said: 'I think it is very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen without invoking valor, without invoking the words "heroes".
'I feel... uncomfortable, about the word because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war.'"

Granted he backpedaled but Memorial Day weekend isn't the time for this.

Read more: Chris Hayes: Outrage as TV host says he is 'uncomfortable' calling fallen soldiers 'heroes' | Mail Online
The reporter, like some here on CD, would be better served by keeing their big yap shut during a weekend when this Nation honors those that fell in the service of our Nation, if he worked for me he would have been fired
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:06 AM
 
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The reporter, like some here on CD, would be better served by keeing their big yap shut during a weekend when this Nation honors those that fell in the service of our Nation, if he worked for me he would have been fired
"service of our nation"- willing to do anything for the government including murder, in order to receive pay and bennies
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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Just as blacks are insulted as a group with usage of the N word, military families are insulted when some jerk says their loved ones, especially those who have died in battle, are not heroes.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:22 AM
 
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We honor those who deserve honoring and it's a day to honor those in the military. It doesn't mean everyone in uniform is a hero, that's just the kind of hyperbole we are all so fond of.
This!

While watching the video link about the nut in Miami eating anther's face; the reference by a cop at a press conference describing the respondant cop who finally shot the guy after he refused to stop eating, as a hero. He's not a hero, he did his job with no threat to himself being present The perp was busy chowing down for cry'n out loud.

This in my mind devalues the the descriptor of "hero" and it's true meaning and along with it, those who earned that descriptor in the past. this cop might get an award for the wrong reasons of promoting morale and community relations while cheapening the word "hero" for others who truly deserve it.

Continually using that word to describe everyone from the fireman getting a cat out of a tree to a pet dog waking a family at night during a fire does a disservice to all of those "true heros" who risked and perhaps lost their very lives to facilitate the survival of others.

I have always questioned the propensity of awarding medals for perhaps a decision made by a rear echelon officer, well out of harms way, that resulted in some successful mission, be it the delivery of munitions to a unit needing them at a critical juncture of an operation or even a guy way back there in a command centre who said "take that hill at all costs".

How is one to understand the value of that piece of lettuce on his tunic when the guy standing beside him wearing class "A's" has the same colour bar but got his for throwing himself on a grenade to save his buddies and lived to tell the tale.

I'd ignore the one and salute the other, but how do you know if you give them out for either happenstance!
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:28 AM
 
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"service of our nation"- willing to do anything for the government including murder, in order to receive pay and bennies
which in turn allows cowardly people to make statements like this.

It's only through their efforts that people can make idiotic statements like this.

You attack them wholesale, yet it's their efforts that protect your ability to say crap like this.

One day, you'll need a police officer, fireman or military member and they'll be there despite your outright hatred of everything they stand for.
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