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Old 05-28-2012, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Nothing objective...it's just my opinion.
Fair enough
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:29 AM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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Many, huh?
Yes many.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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No my guess is that many vets know the Left holds them in contempt, Hayes just voiced it in public. Obama is the leader of the American Left so it makes sense many vets would not support him, politically.
You think that what Mr. Hayes said was "contemptuous"?
Really?

There is absolutely nothing contemptous about questioning why we as a nation choose to sugarcoat the realities of war and the ways in which we convince ourselves that sending people to their deaths serves some higher purpose.

I am a proud liberal, the widow of a Viet Nam vet and the mother of two sons who chose to enlist in the military, one still active.
My sons credit their liberal upbringing for giving them the desire to serve their country.

When you spout off about people holding the vets in contempt, you better be able to back that up with something, like say, some U.S. military history in YOUR background.
Or, are you just another of those cons who prefers to have someone else fight your battles?

BTW:

Obama gains edge in military campaign donations - National populist | Examiner.com
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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The military families deserve a little recognition today as well.

Just saying.......
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas
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Well, I'm a liberal.

I also believe that if you make the ultimate sacrifice serving your country, you're a hero. This guy doesn't speak for everyone.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Another tempest in a teapot, meant to threaten anyone who does not lavish praise on the military. It will always be this way as long as this country is controlled by the military industrial complex, which dictates our foreign policy and decides which countries have the resources we want to fight our wars in. But even if said resources do not exist, it is still a win for the complex, which rakes in trillions of dollars.

And is always at the ready, with a loud and belligerent cheering section, ready to attack anyone who dares break ranks with vitriolic accusations of hating the military/hating the troops. (How many rightwing PACS are the neocons behind? Americans for Prosperity being only one. These help to organize the attacks)

Hayes is more informed, more aware and has more compassion for the dead soldiers who died needlessly than any pot bellied FOX watcher waving his flag on Memorial Day. That he does not mindlessly follow conventional wisdom and reflexively call everyone who died a "hero" shows cares to look behind the curtain of lies that got these men and women killed in the first place. It does not in any way mean he does not respect their ultimate sacrifice, even if it was in vain.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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CMOHS.org - Official Website of the Congressional Medal of Honor Society

Very moving reading
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:51 AM
 
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Chris Hayes is a douche. He's a lightweight among a network full of hacks and sloppy quasi journalist commentators who parrots anything his higher ups tell him to. If he wasn't a grovelling litlte suck up he wouldn't have the low level job he has. If he had some real ability he'd have ended up someplace else.
Criticizing him is pointless, there's no real person there.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Military Times Hall Of Valor

Another good site
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Also, what has this little twerp Hayes ever done for his country? My guess is nothing.
He has educated millions of Americans with his investigative reporting. Not that you could comprehend any of it, of course.
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