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I wonder why the divider-in-chief hasn't weighed in on this yet? If Hayes were saying something about a young black man I'm sure we could count on some blathering from the village idiot.
Dying in combat (or a combat arena), only makes you a statistic.
It takes a lot more to be a hero.
Sorry, but calling all who serve, a hero, sets the bar far to low for the real heroes.
Give them their due respect and honor them for their service, but pass the hero, to those that through their actions, were heroes.
There is a hardcore element of radical extremism, which often is also representative of the most bigoted and racist of Americans, who use opportunities like this one to lash out at their adversaries, and what you see here you will see and hear elsewhere as well. Sometimes this manufactured outrage is coordinated and channeled by various organizations that have deep relationships with the armament industry and Republican politicians and their PAC's. These folks use "patriotism" like a club.
Many of the most strident and accusatory voices are your "super patriots", who often turn out to be people who never wore the uniform and have a deep seated inferiority complex like Ted Nugent.
There is a hardcore element of radical extremism, which often is also representative of the most bigoted and racist of Americans, who use opportunities like this one to lash out at their adversaries, and what you see here you will see and hear elsewhere as well. Sometimes this manufactured outrage is coordinated and channeled by various organizations that have deep relationships with the armament industry and Republican politicians and their PAC's. Many of the most strident and accusatory voices are your "super patriots", who often turn out to be people who never wore the uniform and have a deep seated inferiority complex like Ted Nugent.
Review your post. I recall Clinton's "nation-building".
Funny that your post, to the word, can be applied to leftist radicals, with the exception of two words: "Republican" and "patriots".
Yes, but recognize that if you widen your perspective just a bit, this also includes the soldiers of the enemy side as well. They didn't orchestrate the circumstances that sent them to war, but they were all human beings who fought and died for the protection of their buddies and their way of life as they knew it.
In fairness Hayes really didn't say they were not heroes but that calling them such would create a societal desire within its people to perpetuate war in order to become heroes.
Believe it or not I understand the sentiment laid forth by Hayes but it is unfortunate that he does not. In modern culture - no soldier comes back from battle and wants that in the future for his or her children - at least not in the Western world That is why very few of our soldiers ever acknowledge their 'Hero Status'. They are humble in the light of their sacrifice because they know of those left behind, those who came hope draped in a flag and because they know the evils of the world cannot be fathomed by society in general.
There is a huge chasm between their deference to their sacrifice and heroism and the refusal to recognize the same in general terms during a recognized day of remembrance. The ignorance of people like Christopher here is disheartening but nothing new - these people have long sat in positions of the political and academic bodies of the world.
No disrespect to Sen. Kerry's questionable service (just questions) but Christopher didn't seem to mind him being a war hero: http://upwithchrishayes.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/08/9300972-everything-old-isnt-newt-again?lite
Yes, but recognize that if you widen your perspective just a bit, this also includes the soldiers of the enemy side as well. They didn't orchestrate the circumstances that sent them to war, but they were all human beings who fought and died for the protection of their buddies and their way of life as they knew it.
Now you did it. Be prepared to be called an anti-American supporter and sympathizer of the enemy who cried when Osama Bin Laden was killed.
Yes, but recognize that if you widen your perspective just a bit, this also includes the soldiers of the enemy side as well. They didn't orchestrate the circumstances that sent them to war, but they were all human beings who fought and died for the protection of their buddies and their way of life as they knew it.
Good point.
Lt. Gen. Harold Moore(Ret) writes in the prologue of his book We Were Soldiers Once...and Young,
"While those who have never known war may fail to see the logic, this story also stands as tribute to the hundreds of young men of the 320th, 33rd, and 66th Regiments of the People's Army of Vietnam who died by our hand in that place. They, too, fought and died bravely. They were a worthy enemy. We who killed them pray that their bones were recovered from that wild, desolate place where we left them, and taken home for decent and honorable burial.
This is our story and theirs. For we were soldiers once, and young".
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